XxGarbSxX

That is also true. I think there should be a required test to be able to buy a car with more than 350hp, or goes sub 4.5s 0-60.

bboyferal

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But then we wouldn't have the lovely auto insurance rates we have!

TT632

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Personally, I don't care for the looks, but the performance is living up to the Nissan crowds expectations. For a "production" vehicle the performance is far beyond anything Nissan/Datsun has ever had before. Having driven production Skyline GTR's in the late 90's I was not impressed with their acceleration or the lack of feedback on a road coarse. The new GTR looks like it won't have those issues. Even though the advertised price looks like it should be attainable to the middle class (abiet upper middle), it's highly unlikely that they will sell for those prices.

Chadder

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This is true, to an extent. While the z06/Viper etc are true manuals and require skill to drive, the GTR doesn't require much 'skill' to drive well with the dual clutch auto. We might see some faster times, but I still think the z06 is going to be trapping quite a bit higher (with a skilled driver).


We have some time yet to see if the GTR crowd can clock a 10 second bone stock et. I'm looking forward to seeing some real world numbers.

raceme@you'dlose.com

Don't care for the looks but the numbers are damn impressive. I would like to see a test that includes all of the cars in this performance bracket and price range. Just to see where it would place on the same day and same conditions.

qwikz28

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where can i read more info on the trans? haven't heard anything on it yet. and i havent seen the weight yet now that i think of it

RedBeauty84ZX

Transmission

The Nissan GT-R uses an all-new GR6-type transmission, exclusively developed for the car. The paddle shift six-speed twin clutch gearbox is highly efficient - unlike an automatic transmission with conventional torque converter, there is minimum power loss so response and fuel economy is improved.



In M range (for manual transmission mode), the paddle shift gives exceedingly quick changes. Such quick gear changing maintains the turbo boost, so acceleration is one strong powerful seamless burst.



The twin clutches make a significant contribution to shift speed. There are separate clutches for the odd (1,3,5) and even (2,4,6) gears. When the car is running in an odd number gear, the adjacent even numbered gears are pre-selected and are ready to make the shift immediately in the sequential-shifting gearbox. When downshifting, a synchronized rev control 'blips' the throttle precisely to synchronize engine speed for extra-fast downshifts. Borg-Warner triple cone synchronizers are used.









When R range - the sportiest setting - is chosen on the set-up switch, a computerized control predicts the driver's next gear change, based on throttle opening, vehicle speed, braking and other information.
The Nissan GT-R uniquely offers exceedingly quick gear shift speeds and full automatic transmission. In A (for automatic transmission) range, the car changes gear automatically, in the most fuel efficient manner. Higher gears are used whenever possible, benefiting from the car's massive 588 Nm (60kgm) of torque, and its long and flat torque curve. The car can be driven in sixth gear for long periods at low speeds, and still offers good throttle response. Such docile behavior is at odds with most equivalently fast supercars and is one of the many unique aspects of this technology flagship.



The E-TS electronic traction control and rear final drive with limited slip differential (for better power delivery) are both integrated into the surprisingly compact and light rear transaxle. By placing the input/output shafts diagonally, the transmission is flat and the car's center of gravity can be lowered.
One highly useful and unusual feature is the Nissan GT-R's Hill Start Assist. On an uphill gradient, which the car automatically recognizes, the system maintains brake pressure for about two seconds after the release of the brake pedal, making hill starts easy.

The parts which have been processed using the latest production equipment, are looked after and assembled one by one, by the hands of one skilled mechanic. High precision and full reliability is ensured with the latest inspection machinery.

dailydriver

NOT necessarily (especially NOT "far better times"). The dolts testing these cars were probably helped by all of the driver aid/technical adjuncts in the GTR, enabling them to just 'punch it and go', getting max results. Doing this is something that will NOT yeild great results in a Z06.
Now the DA factor WILL help the GTR.

mzoomora

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Why? We have absolutely nothing to worry about.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_01.html

You are talking about a car that is maybe even with a Z06, and now you have the ZR1 on the horizon.

Also, I think the trap speeds for the GT-R are about right. Heavier car and AWD, the trap speeds arent going to be what you would normally expect.

5301113

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Thats right

BLOODTA

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With an awesome driver, the Z06 can run a 10.98 1/4 @ 129mph, that's just insane. So I would say it'll be close between the GTR and Z06 for the average Z06 driver, but, the potential of the Z06 is greater. The GTR is a technical marvel, I'll give it that, and 0-60 in 3.3 is nuts, but it looks weird and it's to much of a niche car, IMHO.

z28MP

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Just because you have money doesnt mean that you can drive

jimmy169

I just watched the video and noticed they were talking about launch control. I think they said they were using launch control to run that 1/4 mile time. I wonder with some better tire's without using launch control how it would do...

WECIV

"Why? We have absolutely nothing to worry about."

Your right they are both equally ugly!!!

W

Whisper

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I like the car from the side and rear, looks too much like a damn Evo from the front. Other than from a dig, I dont think these cars will pose much threat to C6 Z06 owners.

Snyper

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Ive been waitin for someone to bring this up!

qwikz28

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that transmission is trick, but why no manual? i'm sure some people would rather the manual. is it cause of power restraints?

i know i personally can't stand that paddle shifting. granted i used it on a fully automatic car, but it really is hard to get used to and i like a conventional stick. i CAN'T be the only one. but in the end, kudos to nissan. thats an awesome car. gonna really push the envelope with sub 100k supercars

Hydramatic

It isn't actually that bad on the dual-clutch manuals. It is alot like playing in manual mode in Gran Turismo or Forza, you hit the button and it shifts for you, clutching and all. Really cool technology.

qwikz28

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i'm sure that thing can shift much better than i can and will probably be beneficial on the road course and such, but i can't imagine not having a manual option. i wonder what the logic behind it is.

maybe if i drive i'll realize its superiority, maybe i'm old fashioned

jimmy169

They said you don't loose boost during the shifts because of how fast it shifts, which is very beneficial.