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Old 06-23-2008 | 09:30 PM
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Sounds like the original ZR1. Dealers marked the price up from $65k to $100k when they first came out. Five years later those cars were worth $30k in great condition.
Old 06-23-2008 | 10:25 PM
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For that much money I'd buy a z06 and give the 300 grand left to katech
Old 06-23-2008 | 10:32 PM
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For $350K I could have Katech/Pratt & Miller build me a Veyron butchering C6RS, complete with a streetable sequential gearbox!!!!!
haha **** yes.
Old 06-23-2008 | 10:35 PM
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Hey, guys, the problem is that this particular dealership is changing their tune on the cost of the car, not that it's over MSRP.
Old 06-23-2008 | 11:31 PM
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If they are the type of people that will throw 50K onto the price of a car let them. They aren't hurting. ZR1 is just a name. You could buy the factory parts and do the same yourself for alot less on a regular Corvette.
Old 06-23-2008 | 11:36 PM
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Also, who the hell will pay 200k-400k for a vette, a domestic!
What does it being a domestic have to do with anything?
See the prices they're getting for those original domestic 427 Shelby Cobras and GT 350Rs? How about a 1970 Hemi Cuda convertible with a 4 speed? 1969 Corvette ZL-1?
And you have the freakin' gall to ask who would pay that much for a domestic car?
Old 06-24-2008 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
What does it being a domestic have to do with anything?
See the prices they're getting for those original domestic 427 Shelby Cobras and GT 350Rs? How about a 1970 Hemi Cuda convertible with a 4 speed? 1969 Corvette ZL-1?
And you have the freakin' gall to ask who would pay that much for a domestic car?
Im speaking against the dealer markup. How can dealer expect someone to pay 200k for a domestic? The damn thing comes with a cobalt steering wheel. I bet the interior rattles & squeeks! Id say its barely worth 100k IMO.
Old 06-24-2008 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 0000000000
Im speaking against the dealer markup. How can dealer expect someone to pay 200k for a domestic?
And again I ask, how can any dealership expect ANYONE to pay $200k for any car?
What, if it's from Italy or Germany then it's ok but if it's made in the U.S. it isn't?
Based on that logic, I suppose you think the Italian military is better/more worthy than the U.S. military as well?
You do realize that on average, Italian supercars are probably among the most unreliable/trouble prone vehicles in existence right?
You might want to lay off the namedropper, fine wine and cheese tasting mentality man, that holier-than-thou snob wannabe approach is quite obvious LOL.




Originally Posted by 0000000000
I bet the interior rattles & squeeks!
Then you bet WRONG. My base Corvette C6 is COMPLETELY free of any/all rattles and squeeks and is as drum tight/solid as ANY other 3200 pound open top car from Europe OR Japan.
The Z06's and ZR1's structures are likely even more stiff and less flexible than even mine because of the fixed roof.
While I agree that I too would not pay $400k for one either (nor would I pay $600k for an Enzo or even $350k for a Carrera GT for that matter), the ZR1 is still a freakin' BARGAIN at $103k.
Old 06-24-2008 | 02:11 PM
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^^^^^^

Besides, even if you are a Euro 'supacar' snob, would you pay >$230K + for an f'ing TOYota??!!
This is the projected (might even be higher) price for the new Poopra (Lexus LFA) IF and when it ever becomes a reality.
Old 06-24-2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 0000000000
I bet the interior rattles & squeeks! Id say its barely worth 100k IMO.
We're not talking about a Mustank here...
Old 06-24-2008 | 03:07 PM
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I hate dealers with such a passion, I hope he give's em hell, and it looks like he may have the money to do it.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
And again I ask, how can any dealership expect ANYONE to pay $200k for any car?
What, if it's from Italy or Germany then it's ok but if it's made in the U.S. it isn't?
Based on that logic, I suppose you think the Italian military is better/more worthy than the U.S. military as well?
You do realize that on average, Italian supercars are probably among the most unreliable/trouble prone vehicles in existence right?
You might want to lay off the namedropper, fine wine and cheese tasting mentality man, that holier-than-thou snob wannabe approach is quite obvious LOL.
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Italian cars have always been cantankerous because of how they are made. They are not universal and cars like older FIATs you had to machine each part to fit. You couldn't interchange parts from one side to the other.

Our cars are a dream to work on and make so much more power.

Ferraris START in the 4.40ish rear gears...

An American equal could be made easily. It would just cost alot more considering the average Southern European makes nothing compared to us. I wouldn't say they are better workers. In fact they don't give a _______ about cars.

I believe FIAT was only seen as a champion because they were throwing jobs to people back when they really needed them in tough times.
Old 06-24-2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by landonew
Its called a free market economy. If you don't like it, move to china.

Its called supply and demand people. Dealerships run a business not a charity. What would you do in their situation? The same thing other business owners do, charge what the market will bear. No one is forcing anyone to buy these cars at inflated prices. They are people with either more money than sense or people who wouldn't notice hundred Gs.
Oh wow, a man with a sense of business....

So when you guys went and bought diamond ring for the wifey, you argued there 150% markup down to 5% right?

When you went to pick up your new couch, that $1000 price tag for the cheapy couch, was knocked down to it's $150 cost right?

Hell, when you went to get beer the other night, you only paid the $0.50 right?


Like it's been said, supply and demand. While the owner of my dealergroup is a complete idiot that I do not agree with, he's gonna do the same thing.

He turned down an offer of $300,000 for a new Ford GT when it first came out. We have two chevy stores and two ford stores. We have a guy saying that at this point, he'll do $75,000 over stick for our first KR and if someone comes in and offers more, he'll beat it by $5g's.

The last Z06 delivery I did, the lady forgot her certified check at home, so just wrote a personal check out of her "grocery store account". Like what was said above, people buying these cars aren't gonna notice $100,000 missing and just want to have it first to show off to their country club buddies.

I WILL say, that on this specific situation, that it's waaaay beyond fucked up. If he's got any paperwork it "should" help him. But based on an actual purchase contract not having a "VIN" number on it, he might not have a leg to stand on.
Old 06-25-2008 | 03:20 PM
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$400k for a chevy, that's a good one
Old 06-28-2008 | 08:59 PM
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GM should step in and intervene thas RE-DICK-U-LESS
Old 06-28-2008 | 09:21 PM
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damn, and i thought the ZR1 was suppose to bring shame to the highly priced supercars and have the same or better performance.
Old 06-29-2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1fastz
damn, and i thought the ZR1 was suppose to bring shame to the highly priced supercars and have the same or better performance.
It will, and it does.
Don't go by some of the dealer mark up horror stories we're hearing about when comparing prices...$190k Ferraris have been marked up to/sold for $400k+ as well so the value to performance scale/price gap still holds true.



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