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Old 04-10-2010, 04:31 PM
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Anyone have a good guesstiamte what a install and tune cost would be with this?
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From my installer/tuner entire cam kit with install and tune is about 2k. Not sure yet what that consists of, im sure at least cam, push rods, springs, chain etc. but id like to do a ported oil pump as well.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
From my installer/tuner entire cam kit with install and tune is about 2k. Not sure yet what that consists of, im sure at least cam, push rods, springs, chain etc. but id like to do a ported oil pump as well.
that seems like a good price.....my guy at the dealership said gm book time for cam install is like 25hr. he said he could do it as a side job for 1300 plus 700 for cam from TSP and a tune at a local shop for 400-600.....so i'm looking at least like 2400. with the second kid on the way i may have to wait or find another qualified installer for less $$!
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tsp you have a pm thanks

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Around $2k installed will be your average price...
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Originally Posted by madmike9396
I would like to see what u guys would reccomend for me, I want a good size cam noticeable idle but i dont want to sacrafice driveability i would like to have close to or above 400 whp with the torque in same range but i dont want to twist my motor much over stock rev is this possible ? My vehicle is a 01 TA M6 95K miles i will have bolt ons to compliment cam
You're kinda asking for the perfect cam, which doesn't quite exist. To reach 400whp on a cam only car you're going to need to rev it out pretty high... at least 6200rpm shift points is what you're looking at, but more than likely closer to 6600rpm. 400whp and 400rwtq isn't going to happen on a cam only LS1 either.



Originally Posted by madmike9396
would the magic stick 3 on a 113 lsa be to much for the street
This is not the cam you want if you don't want to rev the motor out a good bit. You're looking at shifting at 6700 or so, peak will be around 6400-6500. Drivability will also suffer unless you have a very good tune, even then, it'll be a bit of a dog at low RPM.


For those wondering about pricing for install and tuning... first look at this, I recently did a cam swap and here's what I have invested...

TSP Cam kit with PAC 1518 valvesprings (good beehives, but wish I would have went with duals) -$600
OEM LS6 oil pump, ls2 chain, gaskets needed & crank bolt - $150
LS6 28lb injectors - $70 (I should have went bigger, I'm at 100% duty cycle.)
Tools I had to purchase, not likely you'll have this stuff around if you've never done it before...
Longer bolt to reinstall dampener - $5 from hardware store
Spring compressor (Tims tool) and air hose fitting - $60
5/16" Dowel rods - $10

That's a grand total of $895 in parts and tools... this was me doing it myself...

Also needed rtv, thread sealer, oil, coolant... adds up to another $100 in misc expenses...

Total - $995 installed by me

Tune by EFI Alchemy that included both dyno and drivability portion - $400
HOWEVER! At the dyno I had two bad O2 sensors and major exhaust leaks... If you're car is not in perfect order, dont bother taking it to the tuner. There will be things that need to be fixed. This stuff set me back another $220

In total I have over $1600 in my cam swap, doing the install myself.

Just food for thought.... also, there's no reason you can't do the install yourself if you're somewhat mechanically inclined.
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My shop will do the TSP cam package (cam, dual springs and hardened pushrods) installed, tuned and out the door for $1450.
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Originally Posted by whisler151
My shop will do the TSP cam package (cam, dual springs and hardened pushrods) installed, tuned and out the door for $1450.
How much extra to do the LS2 timing chain for those of us with LS6s?
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after my pathetic performance at the track yesterday, i need more hp, lol... i'm interested in the TSP kit, but in the same boat as SkullV. I'd like to have 420rwhp with my current supporting mods or more if possible without having to wear earplugs... maybe i'll have ot get a head/cam package... who knows... Ted, your guys that are fixing Bob's car willing to cut a deal for 2 V's for an install? let me know what kind of pricing we'd be looking at if u think they'd be open to that... hit me up on here or cf, i won't have me new phone until wednesday...
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Originally Posted by SkullV
How much extra to do the LS2 timing chain for those of us with LS6s?
I mis spoke. Check out the first post of page 2.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...e-video-2.html
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Originally Posted by whisler151
My shop will do the TSP cam package (cam, dual springs and hardened pushrods) installed, tuned and out the door for $1450.
You need the LS2 chain which isnt expensive, im getting a custom ground from my tuner/installer, patriot gold springs, push rods, melling high volume oil pump, ls2 chain, installed and dyno tuned for 1850. SHould be done next month. Ordered the cam and push rods today.

LS2 chainw as like $50 bucks.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
You need the LS2 chain which isnt expensive...LS2 chainw as like $50 bucks.
Luckily, my LS2 came with a LS2 chain.
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oh right, came with the heavy duty truck timing chain I gotcha lol jk. I was actually suprised at the low price tag for the ls2 chain. Nothing is ever under 100 bucks.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
oh right, came with the heavy duty truck timing chain I gotcha lol jk. I was actually suprised at the low price tag for the ls2 chain. Nothing is ever under 100 bucks.
That's because it's for trucks and saturns... Not cts-v's!
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LOL!

Which cam is best for a daily? I want something with good power throughout the entire range! Not just peak and not just down low...
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Talk to an engine builder and get a custom grind cam, same price as one that is already cut. That way everything can be suited fotr your needs, well almost because your gonna sacrifice something. Main thing is the tune, an MS3 can be a daily driver cam as long as the tune is dead on.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
an MS3 can be a daily driver cam as long as the tune is dead on.
That's subjective. The Tsunami cam can be 'DD' worthy with a good tune, but some people think something like a Torquer 2 isn't street friendly. A good tuner can get almost any off the shelf cam to work reasonably well, it's up to the driver and what they can tolerate that determines what's daily-driver friendly.
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Mine is a daily/toy so I wouldn't mind a big cam even if it made it a little less street friendly...
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My custom grind is in the low 23x/mid 23x.....on a 114lsa. Gonna be a long month waiting for the install lol
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Lol! What is the lift on your exhaust side?


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