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Old 10-03-2010, 12:54 AM
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I got the diff cover in today and started welding up the ears. I mad a jig to ease with the process, it is really paying off too. I already have one of the ears almost done, I just need to box it in with a 1/4" plate on top. Then I'll do the other one and then start the torque arm.

When I get the process down, I should be able to crank these things out pretty quickly.

BTW, this diff cover is BEEFY. The mounting plate is 1/2" thick, the stamped cover is 3/8" thick. Pretty nice piece for $120!
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Originally Posted by killernoodle
I got the diff cover in today and started welding up the ears. I mad a jig to ease with the process, it is really paying off too. I already have one of the ears almost done, I just need to box it in with a 1/4" plate on top. Then I'll do the other one and then start the torque arm.

When I get the process down, I should be able to crank these things out pretty quickly.

BTW, this diff cover is BEEFY. The mounting plate is 1/2" thick, the stamped cover is 3/8" thick. Pretty nice piece for $120!
Looks good, I thing your idea just might work as long as the bolts around the cover dont rip out .
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I don't think anyone with a cobra has experienced the back cover ripping out. Most people just have the back cover shatter from torque. Considering how much stronger this piece is than the paper thin aluminum rear cover, I don't think this is going to happen.

The 8.8 is a strong unit, I don't think I've heard of anyone with an 8.8 where the actual case failed besides the back cover.
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Case cover is done! Need to work on the front mount and torque arm next.
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More pics!
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Originally Posted by killernoodle
I don't think anyone with a cobra has experienced the back cover ripping out. Most people just have the back cover shatter from torque. Considering how much stronger this piece is than the paper thin aluminum rear cover, I don't think this is going to happen.

The 8.8 is a strong unit, I don't think I've heard of anyone with an 8.8 where the actual case failed besides the back cover.
Ahh nice, I didn't realize you changed your idea. In the first post you were talking about beefing up the stock diff. Didn't realize you went with the 8.8 now. Nice

Are you doing all welding and fab work yourself?
It looks good
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The basic cover is purchased as a rock crawler piece and I'm welding some mounts on it myself.

When I go into production, I'll probably be using some more robust metal stock for the ears (something like 2"x1/2" bar stock) instead of this C channel I had lying around. Even so, this thing is already essentially bomb proof. I don't see it being possible to break it.
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I had 4.30's in my 01' cobra.... It's was just missing that 6th gear. Now I have one, Hmmmmm.......

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I just wanted to say WOW on your fab work.....coming from a little rockcrawling background I recognized the cover...or I thought. I saw ALOT of backyard/shadetree fab work through the years. Do you do this stuff for a living? Must have nice facilities to do this quality of work in.
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Originally Posted by bamacaddy
I just wanted to say WOW on your fab work.....coming from a little rockcrawling background I recognized the cover...or I thought. I saw ALOT of backyard/shadetree fab work through the years. Do you do this stuff for a living? Must have nice facilities to do this quality of work in.
I'm actually a software developer. I do this kind of stuff for fun. I have a smallish house with a 1 car garage that I've rigged to be a pretty decent fabrication shop (about as good as a 1 car garage can be!). Right now, my tools consist of a drill press, an 80gal air compressor, a chinese Everlast Powermaster 205 ac/dc tig welder wth plasma cutter, various angle grinders, hand tools, air tools, etc and a 4'x8' heavy duty work table. Pretty shade tree if you ask me
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Originally Posted by killernoodle
I'm actually a software developer. I do this kind of stuff for fun. I have a smallish house with a 1 car garage that I've rigged to be a pretty decent fabrication shop (about as good as a 1 car garage can be!). Right now, my tools consist of a drill press, an 80gal air compressor, a chinese Everlast Powermaster 205 ac/dc tig welder wth plasma cutter, various angle grinders, hand tools, air tools, etc and a 4'x8' heavy duty work table. Pretty shade tree if you ask me
Looks good from what I've seen...Looks like a jig-setup job. That's the thing that's been hard for me to get used to on a car like the V....On a buggy or just a trail ride, you could down 30 beers with a couple buddies, go through a couple lbs of welding rods and if what you built broke.."so what?". I'm not gonna half *** do some work on a ride I might top 160mph in. Keep up the good work.
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Looking good!!!
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how much are we looking at costs when you go into production???
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I haven't decided yet, I'll have to get ever part tallied up before I make that decision. It will definitely be cheaper than the 9" solution floating around, mostly because the 8.8 is much cheaper to source and will require less modification and custom fabrication to get in place. An 8.8 is almost as strong as the 9", so it won't be that bad of a compromise.

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can you say a ball park figure????
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What are you thoughts for the Drive Shaft and Axles?

Where are you located?
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Originally Posted by GulfM3
What are you thoughts for the Drive Shaft and Axles?

Where are you located?
I think we might be able to retan the stock driveshaft, I would just need an adapter machined to accept the pinion's bolt pattern of the 8.8 with the V's bolt pattern.

As for the axles, I'll have Driveshaft Shop make them. They already make some beefy axles for the V and the cobra, a mixmash of their parts would easily make some axles for us. They look modular, they all use the porsche style cv joints which have bolt on axle stubs. Plus they are pretty much right down the road from me. I'm in Charlotte, NC.
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Originally Posted by serik21
can you say a ball park figure????
With axles and everything would probably be around $3000. Axles are going to be about 2/3 of that.
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Originally Posted by killernoodle
I think we might be able to retan the stock driveshaft, I would just need an adapter machined to accept the pinion's bolt pattern of the 8.8 with the V's bolt pattern.

As for the axles, I'll have Driveshaft Shop make them. They already make some beefy axles for the V and the cobra, a mixmash of their parts would easily make some axles for us. They look modular, they all use the porsche style cv joints which have bolt on axle stubs. Plus they are pretty much right down the road from me. I'm in Charlotte, NC.
Sounds like you have all your bases covered, I'll be watching for updates!

I'm guessing if/when you sell this it would come as a kit including the diff cover, front mounting bracket, DS adapter and axles? The customer would source their own 8.8 and have it loaded with whatever gear and posi they want.
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Originally Posted by GulfM3
Sounds like you have all your bases covered, I'll be watching for updates!

I'm guessing if/when you sell this it would come as a kit including the diff cover, front mounting bracket, DS adapter and axles? The customer would source their own 8.8 and have it loaded with whatever gear and posi they want.
Pretty much. I could possibly go to my local pull-a-part and yank all the steel 8.8s out of the thunderbirds and the aluminum 8.8s out of the mark viii's, rebuild them and sell those too. It wouldn't be a bad thing to offer that service as well I think.


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