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Old 03-29-2011, 08:23 PM
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I'm guessing 380 cut-outs closed... 390 cut-outs open. With ~350tq
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my guess is 385/360
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392/379
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You're guys estimates are pretty low...my car did 358/348 on the same dyno.

419/396 are the #'s

Dyno dynamics, loaded dyno.

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Originally Posted by FRiCK
You're guys estimates are pretty low...my car did 358/348 on the same dyno.

419/396 are the #'s

Dyno dynamics, loaded dyno.
61rwhp/48rwtq are huge gains for a cam that size. Gives me hope that my 234/246 EPS cam will put out some great numbers. Im hoping for mid 420s with stock 241 heads.
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Originally Posted by FRiCK
You're guys estimates are pretty low...my car did 358/348 on the same dyno.

419/396 are the #'s

Dyno dynamics, loaded dyno.
Dyno dynamics read VERY low. They are actually known to be the lowest in the industry. But regardless 61/48 at the wheels is a very good gain. Congratulations.
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wow great numbers. congrats!.. any plans on hitting the 1320?
Old 03-30-2011, 07:55 AM
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Pretty impressive gains. I thought it would be lower then that for sure, especially for LS6's like ours. That +2 probably bumped up your torque as well. Nice!
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Originally Posted by adanieljohnson1
whats the average hp from this cam?
Originally Posted by itsslow98
61rwhp/48rwtq are huge gains for a cam that size. Gives me hope that my 234/246 EPS cam will put out some great numbers. Im hoping for mid 420s with stock 241 heads.
The gains would reflect the cam, and full exhaust.
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To be honest guys....

I see the #'s, which are dead on for the combo vs what others are making, but I don't feel that kina of power. It doesnt have that punch it had before the cam. I'm honestly not impressed. not too sure what to think right now...
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Originally Posted by FRiCK
To be honest guys....

I see the #'s, which are dead on for the combo vs what others are making, but I don't feel that kina of power. It doesnt have that punch it had before the cam. I'm honestly not impressed. not too sure what to think right now...
What you are feeling is the powerband after the cam is now switched upward. When I first cammed the SS (gained 78rwhp with headers) I did not feel the power difference until about 5200 rpm in 3rd and 4th was a **** ton faster. Due to the weight of these cars, I have abandoned plans for a cam and am going to Maggie it most likely. I have already bought and sold 2 different cams for this car on here after changing my mind numerous times. I miss the torque and violent bottom end of my 03 Cobra coupled with great topend power.
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The car was also tuned in open loop. He tried for an hour to figure out why the 02's werent giving any info, nothing. He said that sometimes with lingtubes the 02's are moved so far back and are not heating up enough to send a signal and that there way no way on my processor to change the sample rate or increase the voltage to the 02's... Anyways. The tune is 12.7-13.0 across the board, which would be a tad leaner on the street I assume, due to more load. And he could only put 21* of timing in it, he tried 22* and it pinged up top @ about 6k. I was under the impression I could do 24* on pump 91, oh well.... Either way. I'm not happy with the FEEL of the car. Not sure what I can do to get some snap back to it... Keep in mind this is my daily driver, I drive it on trips, different altitudes ect. So cosistancy with the tune and the most MPG's would be ideal. Any thoughts?


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That was a LONG pull. And with your unhappiness, I would say (without seeing the graph) that your tq comes in late. My torquer v2 comes in early at nearly 300ft lbs at 2900 rpm's. Peaks mid range. Yours might be more for top-end. You might be able to degree it in to move the curve. You'll lose the 420 top end, but you'll have the fun factored low end tq.
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do you have a dyno graph for us to look at?
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Originally Posted by -T-
That was a LONG pull. And with your unhappiness, I would say (without seeing the graph) that your tq comes in late. My torquer v2 comes in early at nearly 300ft lbs at 2900 rpm's. Peaks mid range. Yours might be more for top-end. You might be able to degree it in to move the curve. You'll lose the 420 top end, but you'll have the fun factored low end tq.
3.73's in 4th?? I think he started at 2,300? Took it to 6,500... I wouldnt think this cam would lose such punch down low with a 226/230 on a 113+2??

I'm thinking I might advance it 2*...

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I wouldnt bother messing with it to be honest, i know what you mean though the cam doesnt give it the raw power feel, mine has the top end pull but down low isnt very impressive. Its all in what you want for the car. I like to roll race and not worry about the rear so mine pulls like a freight train up top with the nitrous. Add some spray for the times you want the extra torque, i made 510rwtq at 3,000rpms on 100 shot. and it stayed to like 480tq throught the RPM range.
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Originally Posted by FRiCK
3.73's in 4th?? I think he started at 2,300? Took it to 6,500... I wouldnt think this cam would lose such punch down low with a 226/230 on a 113+2??

I'm thinking I might advance it 2*...
Depending on your ICL, your already advanced at least 4 deg with that cam. Advancing it is only going to move your powerband up. Retarding it would move it upwards mid range. But like I said, depends on your ICL. I have a ICL of 110 and LSA of 113. That equates to 3 deg advance.

Talk to PatG, see if his specs allow you to move the powerband.
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Originally Posted by -T-
Depending on your ICL, your already advanced at least 4 deg with that cam. Advancing it is only going to move your powerband up. Retarding it would move it upwards mid range. But like I said, depends on your ICL. I have a ICL of 110 and LSA of 113. That equates to 3 deg advance.

Talk to PatG, see if his specs allow you to move the powerband.
Waiting for Pat to respond....


I'll also be grinding down my 02 bungs and running the Bosch 13111 sensors, in hopes of getting the 02's working to get the tune out of this permanent open loop mode stuff...
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whats the downfall of always running open loop? I know a lot of guys that run swap cars dont run 02s but i was unsure of what im gonna do.
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Originally Posted by FRiCK
To be honest guys....

I see the #'s, which are dead on for the combo vs what others are making, but I don't feel that kina of power. It doesnt have that punch it had before the cam. I'm honestly not impressed. not too sure what to think right now...
So you gained 61rwhp and 48rwtq with a fairly mild cam and you're not impressed? It may be that the powerband has switched to a higher rpm level, but 48rwtq increase should certainly be felt by the seat of the pants. I'm very impressed with your gains, especially considering you swapped from a decent sized cam already. Not like you swapped from an LS1 cam or something.
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