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Old 05-23-2012, 12:58 AM
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Did the DEI Titanium wrap... mainly to keep direct heat off the surrounding components... I live in Phoenix so rain? what's rain? I don't worry about water rotting things
Old 05-23-2012, 01:17 AM
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Mine aren't wrapped and are just fine. Kooks on my old car weren't wrapped either.
Old 05-23-2012, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chitown21y
I got a killer deal on some Kooks but they are not coated. The question is I live in Seattle=rain so should I run with the wrap (hate how it looks) I already bought or coat them and spend another 300 that I could spend on the tune?

Just looking for some opinions from people that have done it either way....


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No reason to wrap them they are 304L stainless will not rust, may have some surface rust spots that is normal. It is due to the alloy compound that composes the stainless. When wrapping them you are basically putting an abrasive sponge around your headers. If you wanted to protect them further than just bare stainless coat them.
Old 07-08-2012, 07:34 PM
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Ok guys I am installing these today and thinking of not wrapping them but wrapping everything around them. Anyone done this and how are your spark plug wires holding up?

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Just fine here. I made sure all wires, lines, etc were away from them and haven't had a single issue. Spark plug wires are bare MSD's without heatsocks and I just made sure to turn them away from the header tubes to ensure they weren't too close and they haven't given me any issues either.
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Ok done deal. Thanks NS02
Old 07-08-2012, 09:50 PM
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No prob bud. My old car had naked kooks. 30k miles on them and no issues there either but it does get hot under the hood. Maybe a little hotter under there than if they were wrapped but I can't see it making enough of a difference to really matter.
Old 07-09-2012, 12:15 PM
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Another Seattle Guy, nice!

If you got the cash then get them coated especially with our climate, but wrapping is cheaper and will suffice. I did both.
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How did you guys get the kooks to not touch the starter wire? Its a pain and it have wrapped the wires in heat wrap but I cant get them moved enough to not touch. Also any clearance issues with steering shaft?
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Originally Posted by chitown21y
How did you guys get the kooks to not touch the starter wire? Its a pain and it have wrapped the wires in heat wrap but I cant get them moved enough to not touch. Also any clearance issues with steering shaft?
The steering shaft was a biotch when I put in my pacesetters, had to disconnect it to get them installed.
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I took my steering shaft out and did some grinding on it when i installed my headers. As far as the starter wire, mine doesn't touch but it's close. Gonna heat wrap it for added protection when I get it outta the paint shop.

I always forget about climate differences. Down here, we don't have to worry very much about rust or any other wear and tear unless we drive the car on the beach near the water without blasting everything underneath afterward with a pressure washer. Old car was on the beach multiple times with no issues and no rusting of any kind.
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Did anyone wrap the oil filter?
I did.
My kook header is about 3in from the filter.
Old 07-09-2012, 07:48 PM
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Grinding the steering shaft probably not a good idea.
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No problems thus far. Plenty of people I know have done it. Saves u having to smash the **** outta the headers. A little grinding and a minor dent and ur good to go
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I just got mine back together and the only problem seems to be that the steering shaft is rubbing the headers when before it wasn't. I'll have to play around with it some more tomorrow.
Old 07-12-2012, 12:12 AM
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****Update**** So the install was going well until I received a nice notorious gift of a broken rear DS header bolt! What are the chances I can get it out and what have you guys heard of using to try?

Thanks Dave
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You're lucky it's on that side. You have much more room to work with than the rear PS bolt like mine. Is it flush with the head?
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It is not perfectly flush but about 1 thread in.
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Originally Posted by chitown21y
****Update**** So the install was going well until I received a nice notorious gift of a broken rear DS header bolt! What are the chances I can get it out and what have you guys heard of using to try?

Thanks Dave
Was it a new header bolt ?
Two options to get the bolt out...cut a slot in the bolt and remove it with a flat head or get a nut, place it over the stud or try to grab a thread or two and weld the inside of the nut to the stud then remove with a wrench.
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No its an factory old bolt. I think this bolt broke off a while ago. I dont think I can cut a slot in it due to it being inside the head but the welding thing may work. Anyone tried drilling it and using an easyout or is welding the best method?

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