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test drove a bunch of new cars..and they don't compare to my V1

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Old 06-05-2012, 03:07 PM
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Anything with AMG's 6.3 in it is a monster. Got a ride in an R63 once... it was a trade-in at a dealer I used to work with/for. Thing was one funny lookin ride, but it sure was quick.

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If you are gonna compare, compare FAIRLY.

Comparing a CTS-V to a base model MB is not the same as the AMG (which I would consider the MB version of a V).
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The V1 is a great performance sedan that still holds it's own 8 years later.
Excellent handling, brakes, power and very nicely appointed.
With proper mods it's almost untouchable (in the sedan world) except by much newer sedans, that cost twice as much when new.
With the mods available for a V1 now, its a very fun car to own.

As for finding a faster comparable sedan for under $30K, I don't think it's possible.
Some might say 335, but that's a tiny car and slower than a V1, stock to stock.
G8 GXP is an option but it's very rare and not a V.
The M's and AMG's are good cars but they cost significantly more and don't mod as cost effectively.
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a black series is not the same as a normal amg.... the normal c63 is cheaper then a V2 base for base.
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The CTS is the base, not the V2.
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Originally Posted by heavymetals
The CTS is the base, not the V2.
i cant tell if you are serious or are messing around here.

base price for a c63 is $58,930
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicl...ss-C/model-C63

base price for a 2013 cts-v is $64,515
http://www.cadillac.com/cts-v-luxury-sedan.html


so if no extra options is something you want from a vehicle then the base c63 is cheaper then a base cts-v. The black series is a more serious vehicle then the c63, in the same way a zr1 is more serious then the z06.

its like google isnt available for everyone.
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The CTS is the base model for the CTS-V.

If you are gonna compare base models you start there.

If you are gonna compare V8 models, you start with a V.

Semantics it may be.
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I'm with liquidvenom here. The C63 Black is a skunkworks car. Might as well bring in a Hennessey V that costs $100G and has every mod listed. A C63 is directly comparable to a V2, not a C63 Black...
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C class has C250 T4, C300 3L V6, C350 3.5L V6, Ç63 AMG, Ç63 AMG Black Series (coupe only).
Typical Ç63 costs more than a V2.
Its hard to get a stripped C63.
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Actually E63 is the comparable car to V2. C
Class compares with 3 series and ATS.
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Originally Posted by heavymetals
I have put more in mods then the cars trade in value, but I didn't buy it as in investment.
Originally Posted by soulja
I hear you man. There isn't a car out right now that I want over my V1.

^I was thinking the same exact things^

Plus I still get comments all the time....."is that the new Cadillac?" I say "Nah man, it's 8 years old" and I always get...."daaaammmmnnn" as a response. That's worth keeping it right there.
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Interesting discussion. When it came time to get rid of my wife's 2004 CTS, I looked at a Hyundai Genisis Coupe with the 2 litre 275hp 4 cylinder and 8 speed auto. It wasn't here yet, so we looked at and bought a 2010 BMW 135i.
It is a small car which is what we wanted, since our kids are all gone but I'm sure it would give my V1 a run for the money especially if I'm doing the shifting.
A couple of days ago a salesman came by and we were talking cars. He had a 2009 MB C63 AMG. But he really wants a V2!
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Oh dear... didn't mean to start a fight. Just meant it was another neat vehicle I would like to drive but terribly expensive. Talking the $130kish one.
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Originally Posted by lunarx
C class has C250 T4, C300 3L V6, C350 3.5L V6, Ç63 AMG, Ç63 AMG Black Series (coupe only).
Typical Ç63 costs more than a V2.
Its hard to get a stripped C63.
yeah i've never seen a stripper base c63 on a lot. but i think unlike most caddy dealers you can order a c63 at its base price and either do european delivery which saves you money or have it shipped to you which takes like a month or something.

Originally Posted by lunarx
Actually E63 is the comparable car to V2. C
Class compares with 3 series and ATS.
technically a cts is in between the entry level and mid size luxury vehicles as it currently sits. its priced and equiped as a entry level but size wise closer to the 5/e class vehicles. the next cts will move up to that class.
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Yeah, the competition against argument becomes m00t when the ATS and new CTS finally debut...
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ive seen alot of the ATS....for something so light it looks pretty big
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WRX-feel like an economy car with a turbo

Yep, when I drive one that's what I am thinking too. Tinny doors ect..
Old 06-11-2012, 12:05 PM
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I kinda like the light econobox feel. At least for a toy...but then again I was very attached to my 04 sti. I was dissappointed that the wrx did not have the tire digging, raw aggressive feel my sti did.



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