Interesting eBay find...
08-03-2013, 01:02 PM
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Lol... Some people just don't get it. Save the time/money and just do it right the first time. You'll end up with more money into a base cts that will sell for half the price of a beat up V in the long run.
08-04-2013, 01:28 AM
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Lol. How is that if I have already paid the 30 grand for the cts once. Sure I can sell the base for 5 grand and spend another 10 to get a ctsv but once i strip if all to be upgraded or just deleted I am rite back at square one. Remember your front bumper is only 500 new and your mounts go into the stock crossmember. The suede seats arent needed. And the suspension and fuel set up will swapped out as well. So why buy a ctsv to strip it down to what is a bare cts and rebuild again? If it wasnt going to be a full build then I could understand. But when I am building a race car and taking out everything that would make the car a v for upgrades that would be a waste of money. The base and v even use the same rear end carrier. Spend 15 on a car and put 10k in upgrades or take a base that is paid for and do 10k in upgrades. The result is the same.
08-04-2013, 04:06 AM
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Because you don't strip it down to what a base CTS is... you move an engine out, you keep the harness, the accessories, everything. It all can be moved over to another LS block, the transmission is solid and doesn't need to be swapped out (unlike the CTS auto, which would need to be swapped also), the harnesses, all accessories, etc.
Why do you think there's no ABS, AC, or other things there? The ECM isn't correct, modules are missing, and **** isn't wired right.
There's a reason people are saying go V first. You can go base and prove everyone's point by ending up with a car just like the first post. A crappy V swap, trying to get money back because he spent too much on the build and still isn't done.
Why do you think there's no ABS, AC, or other things there? The ECM isn't correct, modules are missing, and **** isn't wired right.
There's a reason people are saying go V first. You can go base and prove everyone's point by ending up with a car just like the first post. A crappy V swap, trying to get money back because he spent too much on the build and still isn't done.
08-04-2013, 11:05 AM
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Indeed that guy should have just bought a V because his goals were a lot milder. My goal is 800 hp. There is nothing in the V that is going to hold up to that. The trans and rear end are going to become paper weights after they grenade. A/C ABS etc? In a race car?
I think you might want to rethink your mindset on the V. Great car indeed. But remember that the first CTS to break into the 12s, 11s, 10s was in fact a swapped base model CTS! FACT!
I think you might want to rethink your mindset on the V. Great car indeed. But remember that the first CTS to break into the 12s, 11s, 10s was in fact a swapped base model CTS! FACT!
08-04-2013, 02:26 PM
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Indeed that guy should have just bought a V because his goals were a lot milder. My goal is 800 hp. There is nothing in the V that is going to hold up to that. The trans and rear end are going to become paper weights after they grenade. A/C ABS etc? In a race car?
I think you might want to rethink your mindset on the V. Great car indeed. But remember that the first CTS to break into the 12s, 11s, 10s was in fact a swapped base model CTS! FACT!
I think you might want to rethink your mindset on the V. Great car indeed. But remember that the first CTS to break into the 12s, 11s, 10s was in fact a swapped base model CTS! FACT!
I'm missing your point here... you sound like you've never done this before.
08-04-2013, 02:44 PM
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http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...treatment.html
Read the "build" thread, it's a ******* clown show.
Read the "build" thread, it's a ******* clown show.
08-04-2013, 03:18 PM
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I agree with you there. I have no intentions of selling. I just want to build a cts. I think its more practical to take the cts that I bought new in 04 and build it. As opposed to spending 20 grand and building the motor and swapping the trans and gutting half the car.
... Your point? My bad, am I missing something here? Breaking into something first would make it superior to what? Frame is exactly the same, and if you're going to break everything down, there's more money to be made on selling V parts vs buying parts from a V. You are talking a V swap, and now its a 800hp super race car. mmhmm
I'm missing your point here... you sound like you've never done this before.
I'm missing your point here... you sound like you've never done this before.
Said build back on page 1. The only V parts I plan on using are the motor mounts. Nothing more. Ill be starting the building thread here soon. I already have the block and a few other things going.
08-04-2013, 03:42 PM
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LOLOLOLOLOL... You have obviously outsmarted the entire V forum.
If you think the only V parts you're going to be using are motor mounts, you have a lot to learn. Come back and post a thread when you're $20,000 in the hole and still don't have a car comparable to a $15,000 V.
If you think the only V parts you're going to be using are motor mounts, you have a lot to learn. Come back and post a thread when you're $20,000 in the hole and still don't have a car comparable to a $15,000 V.
08-04-2013, 06:57 PM
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08-04-2013, 08:15 PM
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Read the "build" thread, it's a ******* clown show.
Read the "build" thread, it's a ******* clown show.
let me say the following:
this is in the spirit of modding cars. doing what others might not want to or have the heart to do. some turbo their v's or put 9" rears or completely gut their cars for their own wishes. people told norm v he was crazy at some point and he built the best v i have ever seen.
and we have the engine which motivates many people to hot rod. all the m3's with ls motors, the mazdas/fords/lincolns/hondas/etc which at some point have a ls motor crammed into it. and people hate on them for it, but i have never understood since its their money.
this kid did the mechanically difficult parts, and the electrical and power steering are things he can figure out if he wished...just like many other people who do more involved swaps with vehicles that have seriously difficult can systems to deal with.
some guy is going to buy an ats and pop his turbo 4 and want to drop in a ls7 and peope will hate on him for it. but to keep the modding spirit alive you need people do go against the grain like that.
