Creative Steel Rear Toe rod group buy!
02-24-2014, 02:46 PM
#41
Thanks for addressing these concerns!
You should sell the boots at cost plus $10 if you are supplying them and assuring me they fit because nobody works for free. PM me full price based on this and I will send payment when I get home from work....red please.
Thanks,
Ken
You should sell the boots at cost plus $10 if you are supplying them and assuring me they fit because nobody works for free. PM me full price based on this and I will send payment when I get home from work....red please.
Thanks,
Ken
02-24-2014, 05:26 PM
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Man, good luck with these. They look stellar in the first post. I'll have to wait for a bit. CS, please don't stop making these. I'm going to turn my V into a track monster, I'll be needing these and other things.
03-03-2014, 01:24 PM
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I'm sure they're way better then stock, but some are looking for perfection! And no one was complaining about them (there is no one who has them that switched to these as far as I know), we pitched these to creative steel and they obliged. Also, just cause you run 275's does not mean you have more traction then stock, just a wider tire. Depends on the tire and rubber compound as well.
03-03-2014, 06:08 PM
#53
Mich A/S3s on 9.5s staggered, much better than the craptastic stock runflats or yoko summers I had on previously.
Lets keep it real, these are street lead sleds. Poly is fine. But I am happy that CS can facilitate the groups request.
FWIW a 21mm gear wrench is highly advised for the inner bolt paired with a standard box end 18mm. It's tight.
Lets keep it real, these are street lead sleds. Poly is fine. But I am happy that CS can facilitate the groups request.
FWIW a 21mm gear wrench is highly advised for the inner bolt paired with a standard box end 18mm. It's tight.
03-03-2014, 09:17 PM
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I'm going to order enough parts to make 15 sets. To those guys that wanted in but can't swing the coin right now, you can still get in on the group buy until the extra 5 sets are gone.
You guys won't believe how beefy these toe rods are when you get them. They are monsters when put next to the OEM.
03-04-2014, 01:14 PM
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I'm going to order enough parts to make 15 sets. To those guys that wanted in but can't swing the coin right now, you can still get in on the group buy until the extra 5 sets are gone.
Super glad to hear! Personally, I think the toe rods with 90A urethane bushings are the way to go. They may not be as stiff as the rod end version but the grease-able bushings will last longer than the rod ends. The bushing version toe rods are also lighter since we can use 5/8" hardware. The rod end version had to use 3/4" hardware because of the way the toe rods connect to the knuckle----Single Shear.
You guys won't believe how beefy these toe rods are when you get them. They are monsters when put next to the OEM.
Super glad to hear! Personally, I think the toe rods with 90A urethane bushings are the way to go. They may not be as stiff as the rod end version but the grease-able bushings will last longer than the rod ends. The bushing version toe rods are also lighter since we can use 5/8" hardware. The rod end version had to use 3/4" hardware because of the way the toe rods connect to the knuckle----Single Shear.
You guys won't believe how beefy these toe rods are when you get them. They are monsters when put next to the OEM.
Built way stronger, not much more money, plus no need to run a "dust cap" to stop the heim from failing. These things are built for 4x4 trucks and they just don't fail in Mud/dirt/sand/swamp stuff are cars will never see.
A little comparison link between the two. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...qa1-heims.html
03-04-2014, 05:10 PM
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If you haven't bought the heim's yet you should go with Rufstuff heim's over QA1's. Built way stronger, not much more money, plus no need to run a "dust cap" to stop the heim from failing. These things are built for 4x4 trucks and they just don't fail in Mud/dirt/sand/swamp stuff are cars will never see. A little comparison link between the two. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/1121898-ruff-stuff-heims-vs-
ballistic-qa1-heims.html
ballistic-qa1-heims.html
That is a forum thread, not a comparison link. That is all opinions. Also, this is way late and not going to be changed. Also you're comparing apples and oranges here. Nothing coming from the 4x4 world relates well to a sports sedan. Both have different factors effecting each differently. Lastly, the dust cap is not stopping them from failing, it is just insuring longevity. Something I'm sure even the rufstuff joints could benefit from.
03-04-2014, 05:52 PM
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That is a forum thread, not a comparison link. That is all opinions. Also, this is way late and not going to be changed. Also you're comparing apples and oranges here. Nothing coming from the 4x4 world relates well to a sports sedan. Both have different factors effecting each differently. Lastly, the dust cap is not stopping them from failing, it is just insuring longevity. Something I'm sure even the rufstuff joints could benefit from.
From this and CF thread alot of people seem to be worried about the longevity of the joints. And coming from 4x4 background where heims are used in very harsh conditions and in very integral parts of the suspension, longevity is a major factor in the type of joint you go with. So I was just pointing out that a lot of 4x4 guys use Ruffstuff heim joints for there price and how robust they are and how favorable they compare to QA1's, IMHO low quality joint.
03-04-2014, 06:02 PM
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I understand that it is very late in the build and joints might of already of been bought. From this and CF thread alot of people seem to be worried about the longevity of the joints. And coming from 4x4 background where heims are used in very harsh conditions and in very integral parts of the suspension, longevity is a major factor in the type of joint you go with. So I was just pointing out that a lot of 4x4 guys use Ruffstuff heim joints for there price and how robust they are and how favorable they compare to QA1's, IMHO low quality joint.
04-04-2014, 11:47 AM
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Update:
These just got back from powder coat last night. We are waiting on Seals-It rod end boots for those of you that ordered them.
If you did not order the toe rods with boots and have paid in full, your toe rods will be shipped out today.
These just got back from powder coat last night. We are waiting on Seals-It rod end boots for those of you that ordered them.
If you did not order the toe rods with boots and have paid in full, your toe rods will be shipped out today.