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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 09:57 PM
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I took the car out of storage a couple weeks ago and had the battery disconnected for the duration of the storage. As a result, the on-board computer cleared all of the information and made the monitors "not ready". I have not been driving the car for the last couple weeks. I also do not have the check engine light on.

Today I hooked up my code scanner and its says: "Monitors not ready" under the IM status. However, all the monitors that are displayed on the scanner say OK, with exception of EVAP and Cataylist if I recall. On the MOE website it says vehicles between 1998-2000 are allowed to have 2 monitors not ready for a test. So my question is, if if the IM status states that monitors are not ready, should I pass in my scenario since I only have 2 not ready? Or am I missing something?

I know it may seem like a stupid question. I rather make sure I have my info together before I take the test because if I will fail right off the bat for not having monitors ready, I will drive the car more to get the last 2 monitors in the ready position. I want to try and limit my driving because my sticker is already expired (it expires in the winter months, while my car is in storage).

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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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you should be fine if it is only 2 monitors showing not ready. I thought you had hp tuners (maybe I'm confusing you with someone else)? just force the sensors to the ready state
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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Nope, I don't have HPtuners..

Alright thanks. Another question... how many monitors are there in total, in case my scanner is not showing all of them?
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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bring it down here mississauga ill get it ready for ya just pay credit for me that it
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I just scanned the computer today and I have a code PENDING - P1153 H20S Insufficent switching. I've had this code for a few years now (LTs). Usually I clear it and it doesn't come back for a while, but I need my monitors to be set so I can pass emissions.

Can I still pass emissions with a PENDING code? Check engine light is not on.
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I just scanned the computer today and I have a code PENDING - P1153 H20S Insufficent switching. I've had this code for a few years now (LTs). Usually I clear it and it doesn't come back for a while, but I need my monitors to be set so I can pass emissions.

Can I still pass emissions with a PENDING code? Check engine light is not on.
That one you might have to call the ministry about. But if it is pending, it could hit at anytime. If you clear it, you'll be back to square one unless you use either a) use hp tuners to force it ready, b) drive the drive cycle.

Now, the drive cycle is I think 30km, so your safest bet if you want to drive it is to either hop on the highway if there is one very close by, the odds of you running into a cop doing all highway driving, getting off and getting right back on to go back is slim.

OR

put the car onto jack-stands and run it 30km with the tires in the air.
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That one you might have to call the ministry about. But if it is pending, it could hit at anytime. If you clear it, you'll be back to square one unless you use either a) use hp tuners to force it ready, b) drive the drive cycle.

Now, the drive cycle is I think 30km, so your safest bet if you want to drive it is to either hop on the highway if there is one very close by, the odds of you running into a cop doing all highway driving, getting off and getting right back on to go back is slim.

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put the car onto jack-stands and run it 30km with the tires in the air.

I called the Ministry and they said they don't test pending codes. They said they're only concerned about codes that are set and have activated the check engine light. This morning I cleared the PCM and within about 10 Km of driving the same code P1153 came back. I am going to drive the car around to get all the monitors to set (with exception of the Catalyst and EVAP). I read that they won't set due to the pending code. But due to my model year I am allowed 2 not to be set.

I posted in newbie tech about O2 sensors, but for us guys here in Canada what are some good options for sensors? Keep in mind that I have LTs and ORY. I was reading that C5 Corvette rear sensors are good for F-Body front O2s? Is this a plug and play situation? NKG sensors are on sale at Part Source and would consider buying one.. I want to try and eliminate this code because its annoying.

Thanks for all the feedback guys, much appreciated.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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What about running an O2 simulator?

Also, LT1s maybe be different but the Ls1 front and rear O2s are the same with the exception of the wire length. I have personally swapped O2s and purchased rears for the fronts because of the longer leads because of my headers.
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Originally Posted by Brett H
What about running an O2 simulator?

Also, LT1s maybe be different but the Ls1 front and rear O2s are the same with the exception of the wire length. I have personally swapped O2s and purchased rears for the fronts because of the longer leads because of my headers.
I can't run an O2 simulator for the front. For the front you need a real O2, that measures the gas for lean/rich condition. Sims are fine for the rears if your having trouble with the catalytic converter below threshold codes.


If a 1999 Corvette rear O2 has a long enough wire, I may go with that. Guys seem to praise the Corvette O2 for some reason.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 09:48 PM
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im also fighting againt p1153 so far bosch 13111 suck *** work for 2 days
from what i read this post we can just repin the PCM to get rear O2 work as front so you don't need extension im planing just delete it running open loop all the way
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I don't feel to confident on the repining. I'm not the best with electronics and feel like I would mess something up.

I think I'm going to get a NGK 99' Corvette post cat O2 sensor. I just hope the wire is long enough.
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 03:08 AM
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here ya go bud
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...vette-o2s.html

it really easy can't go wrong with that but keep me posted with NGK
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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the only diff bw a rear and front is wire length. the sensor code u guys are getting is due to the downstream distance of lts. this can be fixed by wrapping the headers to retain heat or ceramic coating. any sensor you get will eventually go thru this so you can delete the code. on a side note even with ceramic coating it only increases the uptime to 2 years but you can keep using it well beyond
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Thx for your input guys.

I passed emissions and got my sticker. The pending 02 code cleared for the time being aswell.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 12:45 AM
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did u end up going with NGK sensor?
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Originally Posted by tsench
did u end up going with NGK sensor?
No not yet. I did a scan before I headed out to buy one and I seen the code cleared. At that point I decided to get my e test done. I'm sure it will come back though. I might look at having it tuned out at some point instead of buying a sensor.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 10:18 PM
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i will hack the sensor and keep ya update see if my code come back
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 12:31 AM
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i don't know if anyone in this forum done this but i drill 2 hole one on each side
so far putting sensor back in no code havn't come up i didnt even have to clear my code i double check with my scanner both sensors switching fast back to normal ill put more miles on it see what happen
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