New Mallorey FireStorm ignition?
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Always nice to have options. Love seeing the carb'd LS aftermarket expand.
The data sheet says the measurements are in inches, so big ****. The MSD box lets you update tunes on a running engine, I have done it, so not sure what the Mallory might be doing differently.
This box looks like it has some expanded capability. Looks like it is being geared toward higher end users.
But then again, it is only Monday. i will know more tomorrow
The data sheet says the measurements are in inches, so big ****. The MSD box lets you update tunes on a running engine, I have done it, so not sure what the Mallory might be doing differently.
This box looks like it has some expanded capability. Looks like it is being geared toward higher end users.
But then again, it is only Monday. i will know more tomorrow
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Hey guys, I snapped some pics of the new Mallory box at SEMA last week. I wasn't able to get any further information other than what's already out there, but figured a few pics would be a little helpful. I wish I could have held something up next to it for size reference, but it was behind a glass case. Suffice it to say though, it's pretty large as the measurements would indicate.
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If anyone would like to see the rest of me SEMA pics, the album is here: SEMA PICS But haters beware......it's mostly GM/LS stuff, but there are also some quality Ford and Mopar pics, as well as some auto industry "celebs". Enjoy.
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If anyone would like to see the rest of me SEMA pics, the album is here: SEMA PICS But haters beware......it's mostly GM/LS stuff, but there are also some quality Ford and Mopar pics, as well as some auto industry "celebs". Enjoy.
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I don't trust the holly units, I had 4 of their ignition box's not work in one day. I was on the phone with their tech guys and they were very helpful but still no fore to my gen1 383. I finally took it back and got an MSD that worked the first time.
Point is, they can all screw up. Mallory comp9000 deatributor has served me well. I don't have a problem with the price of the pro unit as it has many capability's .
I am thinking of converting my Nova to carb. It's a race only setup .
Point is, they can all screw up. Mallory comp9000 deatributor has served me well. I don't have a problem with the price of the pro unit as it has many capability's .
I am thinking of converting my Nova to carb. It's a race only setup .
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Mallory FireStorm is 21st century ignition breakthrough that will take MSD 3 years to catch up to and by then Mallory will have another great product coming out for MSD to look at.
This is not a me too type ignition and no one has anything like it period.
Here is the bottom line.
POWER
• Energy output of 150 millijoules (mJ), compared to the industry standard of 135 mJ (CD Box Only)
• 1,000+ horsepower capacity
• 12,500 RPM range
• Operating voltage from 9-18 Volts
• Primary voltage of 550 Volts and a secondary voltage of 55,000 Volts
PRECISION
• Internal integrated data logging system (no computer needed) and 2 MB of internal memory*
• 3D Individual cylinder timing maps*
• Multiple 3D timing maps
• Ignition signal profiles that can read any stock or aftermarket triggering signal
• 36-1 high-resolution crank trigger technology for conventional single or multi coil applications
(*For Pro version only.)
CONTROL
• Boost timing control up to 60 PSI
• Programmable sensor-driven launch control with timers
• Nitrous oxide timing control
• Two cooling fans and fuel pump control*
• Three engine RPM limiters
• Shift light control
• Sensor inputs for precise engine operation. MAP up to 5 BAR
(TPS-IAT- ECT*)
• Sensor-driven auxiliary outputs switch*
(*For Pro version only.)
STREET Box
• Dashboard screen for easy lookup
• 4, 6 or 8 cylinders
• 7 ignition type input selections
• Shift light output
• Tachometer output
• Built-in system diagnostics with limp-home technology
• Malfunction indicator
• Maximum RPM limiting
• 2-step and 3-step RPM limiters
• Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor input for 3D timing tables, boost timing control, 1 to 5 BAR
• Idle spark control
• Launch control
• Coil on Plug capability
• RPM based adjustable dwell control
• Voltage based adjustable dwell for low battery conditions
PRO Box (Includes all of the Street features plus)
• Fuel pump, adjustable prime time and safety shutoff
• Wide Band O2 monitor
• Two vehicle speed input types
• Engine coolant and air temperature sensor inputs
• Throttle position sensor input
• Auxiliary outputs switch via MAP, TPS and RPM
• 3D individual cylinder timing control
• 3D timing maps
• 3D timing single retard function
• Radiator fan primary and secondary controls
• Internal data logging with graphical display, 100 Sample a second and 2 MB memory
Be happy to answer questions, also go to www.malloryfirestorm.com
Eli
This is not a me too type ignition and no one has anything like it period.
Here is the bottom line.
POWER
• Energy output of 150 millijoules (mJ), compared to the industry standard of 135 mJ (CD Box Only)
• 1,000+ horsepower capacity
• 12,500 RPM range
• Operating voltage from 9-18 Volts
• Primary voltage of 550 Volts and a secondary voltage of 55,000 Volts
PRECISION
• Internal integrated data logging system (no computer needed) and 2 MB of internal memory*
• 3D Individual cylinder timing maps*
• Multiple 3D timing maps
• Ignition signal profiles that can read any stock or aftermarket triggering signal
• 36-1 high-resolution crank trigger technology for conventional single or multi coil applications
(*For Pro version only.)
CONTROL
• Boost timing control up to 60 PSI
• Programmable sensor-driven launch control with timers
• Nitrous oxide timing control
• Two cooling fans and fuel pump control*
• Three engine RPM limiters
• Shift light control
• Sensor inputs for precise engine operation. MAP up to 5 BAR
(TPS-IAT- ECT*)
• Sensor-driven auxiliary outputs switch*
(*For Pro version only.)
STREET Box
• Dashboard screen for easy lookup
• 4, 6 or 8 cylinders
• 7 ignition type input selections
• Shift light output
• Tachometer output
• Built-in system diagnostics with limp-home technology
• Malfunction indicator
• Maximum RPM limiting
• 2-step and 3-step RPM limiters
• Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor input for 3D timing tables, boost timing control, 1 to 5 BAR
• Idle spark control
• Launch control
• Coil on Plug capability
• RPM based adjustable dwell control
• Voltage based adjustable dwell for low battery conditions
PRO Box (Includes all of the Street features plus)
• Fuel pump, adjustable prime time and safety shutoff
• Wide Band O2 monitor
• Two vehicle speed input types
• Engine coolant and air temperature sensor inputs
• Throttle position sensor input
• Auxiliary outputs switch via MAP, TPS and RPM
• 3D individual cylinder timing control
• 3D timing maps
• 3D timing single retard function
• Radiator fan primary and secondary controls
• Internal data logging with graphical display, 100 Sample a second and 2 MB memory
Be happy to answer questions, also go to www.malloryfirestorm.com
Eli
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This has nothing on the PowerGrid w/Racepak.
The way I see it is, the 6010 box is a great street/strip box for a great price, plug n play.
If you want race car parts - distributor and a 7531 or powergrid is a tried and proven high HP race system.
This Mallory system falls in between - in a gray zone I personally dont trust OEM crank sensors and reluctor wheels.
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We have a Dashboard type screen that has you typical gauges.
Tach - MPH - Driveshaft Speed - Current timing - TPS - Coolant and air Temp if sensors are used - Battery Voltage etc.
all other screen are function specific.
Tach - MPH - Driveshaft Speed - Current timing - TPS - Coolant and air Temp if sensors are used - Battery Voltage etc.
all other screen are function specific.
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Not looking to go up against POWER GRID.
FireStorm is design to fill the void between the 6A type box and the 7 type box.
If your making more that 1200HP, than FireStorm is not for you. Making less than 1200HP, it would be a waist of money to purchase a 7 or P GRID as they will never be used to their full capabilities.
Plus FireStorm can be used on the street, cant do that with P GRID or DIG7 without over heating the box and cause a failure.
FireStorm is design to fill the void between the 6A type box and the 7 type box.
If your making more that 1200HP, than FireStorm is not for you. Making less than 1200HP, it would be a waist of money to purchase a 7 or P GRID as they will never be used to their full capabilities.
Plus FireStorm can be used on the street, cant do that with P GRID or DIG7 without over heating the box and cause a failure.
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To use the individual cylinder option, then you must need to use individual coils per cylinder, correct? If you use the stockers than the ignition box is only outputting a 5v trigger signal, so some of the stated benefits of hotter output is not really applicable.
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Sorry guys, but I have O faith in their products since Prestolite bought Mr. Gasket a few yrs back.. I was going to get a job making Hurst Shifters here in Cleveland but Im glad I didnt a few months after they shipped their plants to China..
Check it out... Most of Accel's products once made here now Chinesium... Including hurst shifters, and most of Mr. Gaskets products sans most of their actual gaskets...
I'd fear Mallory may be in the same boat.. However something that technical and expensive hopefully may be crafted here in the states...
I understand a lot of MSD's products are now China made.. but fortunately their boxes are still thankfully made here.. so ill spend the 300 bucks on the 6010 box thank you very much!! Good thread tho guys!
Check it out... Most of Accel's products once made here now Chinesium... Including hurst shifters, and most of Mr. Gaskets products sans most of their actual gaskets...
I'd fear Mallory may be in the same boat.. However something that technical and expensive hopefully may be crafted here in the states...
I understand a lot of MSD's products are now China made.. but fortunately their boxes are still thankfully made here.. so ill spend the 300 bucks on the 6010 box thank you very much!! Good thread tho guys!