The truth about the MSD 6010 & 6012
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The harnesses look identical too the MSD ?
Perhaps the same Chinese factory ?
The harness is often the reason people think their MSD's are broken. ...... just wondering.
The harnesses look identical too the MSD ?
Perhaps the same Chinese factory ?
The harness is often the reason people think their MSD's are broken. ...... just wondering.
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I'm by no means running a bad *** built motor with high compression like some here, but the Daytona does fire up quicker than the msd. I don't know how many times I had to change the plugs because the msd wouldn't fire and just fouled them. I talked over the phone with Glenn from redline and talked about its features, one thing that it has over the msd as well is the msd needs at least 450rpm before it sparks, the Daytona doesn't, so that should help with the high compression motors.
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All my carbed setups have been stock compression with perhaps killed heads. Never fouled plugs and it is not possible for a car to fire up faster than most of my setup. This is just my experience. I've built on a budget and not sure when I will
Build another carbed setup since I will be dishing out the cash for the Holley dominator EFI next. Don't want to work on my turbo car more than I'm driving it and I know a carbed blow through will take way longer to tune and have to mess with it more than a dominator setup.
Build another carbed setup since I will be dishing out the cash for the Holley dominator EFI next. Don't want to work on my turbo car more than I'm driving it and I know a carbed blow through will take way longer to tune and have to mess with it more than a dominator setup.
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I had a CSU 750 blowthrough on my turbo LY6, and I just switched to Dominator efi.
the efi is way more involved to tune.
the CSU was awesome out of the box , and only 2 jet sizes and an accel nozzle change off from bang on. AND that was verified by datalogs.
I still have not nailed down an EFI tune that drives as well, or holds as steady an A/F throughout a drag run, as my old CSU 750.
theses are facts and not opinions
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The harnesses look identical too the MSD ?
Perhaps the same Chinese factory ?
The harness is often the reason people think their MSD's are broken. ...... just wondering.
The harnesses look identical too the MSD ?
Perhaps the same Chinese factory ?
The harness is often the reason people think their MSD's are broken. ...... just wondering.
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I 150%disagree.
I had a CSU 750 blowthrough on my turbo LY6, and I just switched to Dominator efi.
the efi is way more involved to tune.
the CSU was awesome out of the box , and only 2 jet sizes and an accel nozzle change off from bang on. AND that was verified by datalogs.
I still have not nailed down an EFI tune that drives as well, or holds as steady an A/F throughout a drag run, as my old CSU 750.
theses are facts and not opinions
I had a CSU 750 blowthrough on my turbo LY6, and I just switched to Dominator efi.
the efi is way more involved to tune.
the CSU was awesome out of the box , and only 2 jet sizes and an accel nozzle change off from bang on. AND that was verified by datalogs.
I still have not nailed down an EFI tune that drives as well, or holds as steady an A/F throughout a drag run, as my old CSU 750.
theses are facts and not opinions
But, if my **** comes together and runs flawlessly, I'll let you know what I did so you can try to fix yours.
You using the auto tune feature for the base program?
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Curious as to how this would work, do you have anymore info on this as to how it works and gets set up? I know for sure crank, cam, and map sensors are needed, but what about the wideband, iat and knock sensors? I'm sure knock sensors can come in handy to pull timing when necessary. And injectors? Does it not need to have them connected to work properly? I am very curious because I have the hp efi that I bought got a very good price and saving it for future use.
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Curious as to how this would work, do you have anymore info on this as to how it works and gets set up? I know for sure crank, cam, and map sensors are needed, but what about the wideband, iat and knock sensors? I'm sure knock sensors can come in handy to pull timing when necessary. And injectors? Does it not need to have them connected to work properly? I am very curious because I have the hp efi that I bought got a very good price and saving it for future use.
It will need a TPS on the harness but it does not have to be hooked to the carb.
The Holley stuff wont start without a TPS autoset which can be done manually once.
On a side note there was a change in the 6010 firmware about 4 years ago that caused the trouble with starting some modified engine combos.
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Curious as to how this would work, do you have anymore info on this as to how it works and gets set up? I know for sure crank, cam, and map sensors are needed, but what about the wideband, iat and knock sensors? I'm sure knock sensors can come in handy to pull timing when necessary. And injectors? Does it not need to have them connected to work properly? I am very curious because I have the hp efi that I bought got a very good price and saving it for future use.
You will need crank and cam sensors. Map would only be needed if doing a timing curve.
It will need a TPS on the harness but it does not have to be hooked to the carb.
The Holley stuff wont start without a TPS autoset which can be done manually once.
On a side note there was a change in the 6010 firmware about 4 years ago that caused the trouble with starting some modified engine combos.
It will need a TPS on the harness but it does not have to be hooked to the carb.
The Holley stuff wont start without a TPS autoset which can be done manually once.
On a side note there was a change in the 6010 firmware about 4 years ago that caused the trouble with starting some modified engine combos.
I would FOR SURE connect a MAP sensor, as it will allow a full timing table to be configured.
Basically, If you allready have it, USE IT.
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thats right, it doesnt come close.....................
EDIT - didnt mean to come off like a dick, but I stand by my opinion.
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If you want to data log with a smart spark it is pretty easy. All you have to do is add a wego 4 wideband, a nc-1 or nc-2 nitrous controller, or their boost controller if you are turbo. All these items with a smart spark will cost you a good deal less than a holley hp.
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No offense taken. Not many people know the capabilities of some of the daytona sensors products. The holley hp is a nice ecu but is really over kill for a carb setup, but if you like it, it is your car and your money.
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You are right about not many knowing the capabilities of the Daytona stuff. If you are selling it, please make a nice little comparison of its capabilities vrs say an MSD 6012 plus a datalogging setup, or the Holley Hp (used to run carb), or say an MS3 used to run ign and datalog. The carb guys would love as much info as you can give em