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Old 01-14-2016, 03:59 PM
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what weight?
Never weighed it. My guess 2800lb with driver


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If you could loose that hood scoop. Damn that's the ultimate sleeper. Very nice. That's pretty light for a four door.


Nice times. Is that a 8" slick? I don't know about Aus. but you could make a boat load of money off that car in the States.
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Originally Posted by dogsballs
Why beat on the motor if you don't have to is my theory!
The way the carb builder has you dial it in. It doesn't. Its hard to believe I know. But you can't argue with results. The man definitely knows E85. I don't know if that applies to anyone else's carb. But if you got a Sullens carb, I would listen to what he tells you.
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Originally Posted by stang_kllr
This pass was made this past weekend. Cut a 10.80 with a 1.5 60'. I started losing power on top end. not sure what it is but it went lean.

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What's your race weight? Very nice.

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Originally Posted by TTur1996
If you could loose that hood scoop. Damn that's the ultimate sleeper. Very nice. That's pretty light for a four door.


Nice times. Is that a 8" slick? I don't know about Aus. but you could make a boat load of money off that car in the States.
it was gutted out track car. 255/60/15 drag radial on 15x7 rim.

aim is mid 9s with new car in full trim, just waiting for engine to be completed after it was destroyed on engine dyno last year.




Originally Posted by TTur1996
The way the carb builder has you dial it in. It doesn't. Its hard to believe I know. But you can't argue with results. The man definitely knows E85. I don't know if that applies to anyone else's carb. But if you got a Sullens carb, I would listen to what he tells you.
disagree. i run a horsepower innovations carb and eric has been great. personally i wouldn't torch my motor with recommendations on what someone else says. he aint paying the bill.
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Old 01-15-2016, 03:38 AM
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Eric and Mark are good friends. And Eric is a great guy that knows his stuff as well. They just do things a little different. As much as people like to post bad stuff that happens to them. Mark has produced a lot of carbs. And I have not seen one person saying they melted down their motor with Marks carb, and tune. And neither have we. So I guess Tomato, To-Ma-To. We only run Ignite supreme Fuel. It has more octane than E85. And always has the same mixture. $270.00 a 55gal drum. We never run pump E85. Not saying its bad. Just don't want to have to deal with ever changing mixtures.

Best of luck on your new build. Sounds like your going to have very much fun with it. Enjoy!!!
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I just noticed the picture of your new car. Didn't think you could get a better sleeper than what you already have. But I stand corrected. Your new one is going to be even better. You think you will be able to get the weight down as far as the other one? Oh and, what happened on the engine dyno that caused the motor to blow?

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Our pump e85 is excellent. Still wouldn't run that much timing even with race juice.

Ex-engine builder screwed up and didn't even idle. Ending with better motor now, just time and money
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Originally Posted by dogsballs
i wouldn't torch my motor with recommendations on what someone else says. he aint paying the bill.
Best interweb advice I've seen in while.
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Originally Posted by dogsballs

Ex-engine builder screwed up and didn't even idle. Ending with better motor now, just time and money
Wow that sucks. Did he at least help you out on the new motor? I feel ya on the time and money.
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Originally Posted by no green
Best interweb advice I've seen in while.
In every facet of life, people are different. That's what makes the world go round. Everyone has their own way of doing things. As long as everyone is happy in the end. Isn't that what is to be strived for? No one is giving specific advice other than listen to the guy that has the experience and knowledge of this fuel. Its nice to see a E85 thread in here, and talk with people, and listen to their experience's. Does not mean you have to do what they do. To me, its very interesting. Mark has his own way of doing things. When we first talked he texted me all the info. Now he would not do something like that if he was worried about you burning your motor up. No deniability.

Sorry OP didn't mean to get off track.
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Oh by the way. We are at 35 degrees and a .035 gap on -7 NGK racing plugs. We have not sprayed ours yet either. Mark says leave it for 200. We will see. We don't live to far from Ignite. So its pretty nice.
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Originally Posted by TTur1996
Oh by the way. We are at 35 degrees and a .035 gap on -7 NGK racing plugs. We have not sprayed ours yet either. Mark says leave it for 200. We will see. We don't live to far from Ignite. So its pretty nice.
I'd run -10 to start out on spray, but i'm gun shy. All heat range is, is the ability for the plug to dissipate heat. A "hot" plug holds more heat in the tip, where a "cold" plug dissipates it faster. A cold plug might not last as long in the pits, but a hot one wont make it to the end of the track if something is off. I still cant understand his logic of running a glow plug, and he wont rely explain it other than it's what he does.

What I've learned, is all that heat in the tip will pre-ignite E85, and once it does that, it'll start burning stuff other than fuel. I believe that Marks tunes are fat enough, that there's enough fuel in the combustion chamber to cool the hot tip back off.

I run Eric's carb. And where i got in trouble is trying something at the track that involved a lot of timing and a hot plug with Eric's carb. And for the record, after the fact, Eric was a great source of knowledge to help me understand what I did.

I'm not saying one way is better or faster, but to figure out what works can get expensive if you're playing with fire.

IMO, Whoever built your carb should help establish a base timing, and whoever built the nitrous system should help establish the timing on spray. Unless the carb guy built the nitrous system, or even saw the tune charts, how in the heck is he going to give you an accurate prediction on the timing and plugs??
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The fact still remains that he only builds E85 carbs, and nothing else, and he usually is about 4 to 6 weeks out, because he is so busy. So he must be doing something right. Eric is very good and we almost went with him. They both have excellent customer service. I know that Mark tells you his program right off jump street. So when someone buys his carb but doesn't set it up the way he wants you to. Well, I would have to think that would be very disheartening. He will even tell you that if you want to do it another way then go with that builder because their programs are different. He just wants whats right for the individual. He will tell you both ways are right, just different. I think he will even refer you to Eric. He's that kind of guy.
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OP The reason I asked you about the intake was. He said with the smaller cubes not spinning at least 8500, do not make enough velocity to pull the thicker E85 thru the circuits properly. That's why we had to go to the Jr. with no spacer. I wonder if that's why you are going lean towards the end. I would definitely ask him though.
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I ran vic jnr in my first incarnation of my motor and was good with 11.9:1, 7300rpm and ~550hp. Moved up to supervic with new combo but talking 14.x:1, 8000+rpm and 700+hp. Only small cube 6.0
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We are hanging on to our SuperVic, for when we freshen motor. Then we will get rid of the LQ4 and get a LSX or some other after market block. And put a big azz solid Cam Motion cam in it. Our complete rotating assembly is good for big Hp. So we will be able to really utilize both foggers. Big time. Lol Right now we are very impressed with the performance of the hydraulic cam. Can't wait to spray it this year. Just finished up installing the wing and chute. Starting on the wheelie bars now. So we will be ready for the spray. Not sure how much power these 10" Hoosier slicks are going to take. But we sure are going to find out. Lol
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Originally Posted by TTur1996
What's your race weight? Very nice.
Thanks man. Race weight is around 3550 with driver. The car and the driver need a weight reduction mod lol.
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Originally Posted by TTur1996
OP The reason I asked you about the intake was. He said with the smaller cubes not spinning at least 8500, do not make enough velocity to pull the thicker E85 thru the circuits properly. That's why we had to go to the Jr. with no spacer. I wonder if that's why you are going lean towards the end. I would definitely ask him though.
yea he never mentioned my super victor. but im in the middle of talking to him now to sort out my issue. one thing it could be is my high speed air bleeds.
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theres a ton of great info in here guys. I really appreciate it. I also talked to mark about fuels and he says ignite is the best but they are pricey. he uses a e98 with 87 octane blend and it works great. Were working on my issue right now so ill post the results as we find out. but in the mean time, check out this video my buddy made me!


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