I have done some searches and keep finding the same stuff, not what I'm looking for. I want to know what each code means, I have an account with compnine.com and yes it has a very brief description but I want to know what that actually means. Example, code "191, interior trim color" WHAT color is 191? Again the code "192, trim combination black leather". Yes I see black leather but it has a separate code for a leather wrapped steering wheel so what trim is it referring to? I'm really asking because the car I'm looking at has UGLY cloth, no leather. I would also like to know about the wheels code "N73, well what wheels should those be?

 

The color codes are standard stuff, but I believe you have confused an "I" for a "1". The two codes above should be 19I (interior trim, Ebony) and 192 (leather seating surfaces, Ebony.) Interior trim is referring to various general interior components (some pieces are always the same color for a given model year - such as the dash - while things like the carpet and certain interior panels will change depending on the color code.) If the car had cloth seats, then the code would end in the letter "B" rather than the number "2"; e.g. a 19I + 19B combo would be Ebony cloth, whereas 19I + 192 is Ebony leather. So the first two charters (in this case "19", Ebony) signify color, and the final character indicates equipment (cloth = "B", leather = "2", interior panels = "I".)

So, if the VIN number of the car in question comes back with RPO 192 (Ebony leather) but it has no leather seats, then someone has changed the seats or the VIN you have searched is not the car's actual VIN (or the database at compnine is wrong - you could double check with a GM dealer at the parts counter.) If the seats are cloth, but still Ebony in color, then they were originally out of a car with an RPO of 19B.

NP5 is a leather wrapped steering wheel, but UK3 would be a leather wrapped steering wheel w/radio controls on a 2000+ car (both RPOs should appear if wheel is leather and has radio controls.) There is no color specified for this as it was only available in one color for a given model year (same as the dash) - regardless of interior trim or seat color.

N73 should be the silver painted SS wheels (I think this same code was used for both the earlier C4 ZR1-style and also the later 10-spoke version.) So then this car, or at least the VIN you're searching, should be an SS originally (RPO WU8.) And with Ebony interior color codes, it would have to be a 2000-02 model and therefore have the 10-spoke SS wheels if they are still original ('99 was the last year for silver painted C4 ZR1-style.)

 

Good lord you know your codes! Ya I did confuse the I with 1. So if I'm understanding everything correctly (I'm in a hurry about to leave work) this car should have ebony leather seats (If I'm right 1998-2000 got ebony and 2001-2002 got black) and not black as it states on compnine.com. But in reality what is in the car is the horrible looking cloth seats with the purple looking design. It has the ugly door pattern to match.

As far as the wheels I figured out it has the 35th anniversary SS wheels on it. That's really what was confusing me.

 

Haha....yes I have quite a few years worth of time spent memorizing some of the RPOs.

Actually, '97-'99 was "Dark Gray" (Code 14, so RPOs 14I and 14B/142), while 2000-'02 was "Ebony" (Code 19.....19I and 19B/192.) There was never an actual black - Ebony was as close as it came but wasn't a real black as some people think/call it (this becomes evident when compared to actual black items, such as the power window switches and blinker stalk.) Ebony was just a really dark charcoal gray color, while "Dark Gray" (14I/B/2) was more of a medium gray sort of shade.

But there were other interior color codes as well, depending on the year, ranging from neutral (Code 52) to Red Accent (cloth only, Code 73B.)

Ultimately, if the car you're looking at has a VIN with RPOs that call for 192 seats (leather) but the car has cloth of any color, then something is wrong (either an interior swap was done, or the VIN isn't the right one, or Compnine is wrong - which, if it comes to that, you can verify at a GM dealer parts counter via their VIS.)

 

I got the vin from the rpo code sticker. I'll verify the vin tomorrow when I see the car in person. Then I'll know if the seats have been swapped or comp nine is wrong. It would really suck if they were wrong since that's a paid service.

 

The 35th Anniversary SS wheel should be designated as QG4 on a 2002 Camaro SS. If you own or have access to a service manual, look in the general information section for a list of RPO code explanations.

 

Oh I didn't know they were in there. I don't have one but good to know. And the car is a 2000 so I know the wheels don't belong there.

 

I've attached a pdf. copy for you. Hope it helps answer some of your questions before you see the car.

 

If the SPID sticker is still on the door, then it would tell the true tale (assuming the VIN on that sticker matches the VIN elsewhere on the car.)

Compnine is definitely correct about 192 being an RPO for leather, but it's possible that they are just showing the wrong code for the VIN in question. But if you can check the original sticker and VIN, then that's all you would need to verify to be certain.

19B = cloth
192 = leather

Whichever code appears on the that sticker (SPID) is how the car originally came, regardless of what's in it now. But, again, make sure to verify the VIN on that SPID because it might not match the car (swapped door, or wrong sticker applied at the factory - that actually happened to one of mine that I bought brand new.)

 

I know the attachment says 2000, but some of those are not correct for 2000. The entire range of Ebony color codes (19) isn't even present, but the outdated 1997-99 code (14) is. Ebony (19) replaced Dark Gray (14) starting with model year 2000.

Are you sure that's not a '99 manual? I ask because 99U (Hugger Orange) is present and this was a '99 only color.

 

Hadn't noticed the ebony interior codes not included before, I knew what they were so I never verified them in the manual.
Yes, this from a 2000 manual. I have it as a pdf and as actual manuals. I believe all the equipment codes should be correct, unless they was new like the ebony interior codes. I noticed the Hugger paint codes before, just figured they missed the editing changes and weren't deleted.

 

Since eveyone likes pics

Car in question, yep I bought it. What's strange is that he gave me a copy of the rpo codes that the dealer printed out and there was no 19I on there. I told him what I found and he said that the car has always been cloth that he knew of. Doesn't matter much I'll probably change it at some point.

Thanks for the help, that's why I love this forum. So many knowledgeable people willing to help out!

 

^ It looks nice! A headlight restoration would clean up the front end nicely. Too bad they get cataracts so easily.

Does the dealer print-out have the proper matching VIN? How about the actual SPID sticker on the door? If there is no 19I, then it wasn't an Ebony interior car originally.

19I = Ebony interior trim
192 = Ebony Leather
19B = Ebony Cloth

If the car came with medium gray or neutral interior colors then it would be 92- or 52-, respectively.

 

Thanks man, ya too bad about the headlights. Not sure if I'll try to restore them or get after market ones. The dealer print out only has the codes on it if I remember correctly. I will check the door tomorrow for the SPID sticker. Can't remember what was there and it's raining right now.

 

I guess compnine.com was wrong because the print out does have the vin. The vin matches the door and everywhere else.

 

So then the door (SPID) and the printout both show 19B (Ebony Cloth), but Compnine showed 192 (Ebony leather)?

Or does the printout and door show a different color code completely (such as 92B or 73B)?

 

Ok...I'm an idiot let me start off by saying that. When I looked at the SPID sticker I was looking to make sure the vin matched. When I looked at the print out he handed me I skimmed through the codes quickly looking for the 19I and 192 codes but I missed them. On the compnine.com page they are near the bottom. On the print out from the dealer they are at the top, so I missed them. Also It was right after he pulled up in the car and I was excited to check the car out. And SPID sticker is half tore off and the codes I was looking for are on the missing piece. But if you look closely enough you can indeed see "19I and 192" on there near the bottom right. Plus the guy, not the original owner, said he thought it was always cloth so that had me thinking compnine.com was wrong. Either way it wasn't a deciding factor in me buying the car but I will be looking for a nice set of leather seats and door panels.

 

Yes, close inspection seems to indicate that 19I + 192 are present on that SPID, so if the VIN matches (as does the dealer and compnine printout) then the car most certainly came with leather.

The F-body leather is rather poor quality, so the cloth may have been swapped in to replace prematurely worn seats at some point. Or, if the seats were still nice, someone who owned the car in the past may have swapped interiors with someone else to make a little extra cash prior to selling the car. Honestly I'd rather have the cloth, it's much more durable and comfortable in temperature extremes, but I do agree that the pattern isn't visually appealing on the 2000-'02 style. However that's all just a matter of personal preference.

In any event, at least you now know for sure how the car came originally.

 

Ya I was mostly interested in how the car came from the factory. Not a really big deal to me and I agree with you about the leather. I just don't care for the pattern on the seats I have. Sort of strange looking. If it were just a solid color I wouldn't mind. May be cheaper/easier just getting some after market seats.