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What Engine?
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What Engine? I am going to be buying a 3rd Gen camaro here soon, but I am definitely not keeping the stock engine. I was wondering what would be the best engine to put in. I was looking at the LS1 or LT1. I have been told the LS1 is a better choice by some, and the LT1 by others. Or should I get something completely different?
I voted LT1...LOL cant have zero votes! All jokes aside. I think if you can afford the LS1 setup you should do that. However if price is a bit of a concern, you could probably build a very powerful LT1 for close to the same as the LS1 setup will cost you, but maybe put down a bit more power, as the LS1 will cost you more to begin with. Its win win if you ask me. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by badjuju342
You might the sticky at the top of this forum rather helpful.....
That is why I wanted to know what would be better. I was planning on buying a IROC with a blown engine/tranny, and either an LT1 or LS1 that was in a wreck just to use the engine/tranny etc, just like you are doing. How much hp you trying to get out of yours? I will be looking to get about 500 or so rwhp when I am done. LS1 Tech Stories
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Being that my car is going to be mainly for show , I didn't go too crazy on the engine. No heads, just a cam, roller /rockers and a LS6 intake, headers, Meziere water pump and a CAI. I'm hoping for the high 300's (possibly 400) for hp. I was concerned about durability so a few items like hardened pushrods, good valve springs, Racetronix fuel pump and a ported LS6 oil pump were in order.
I did go pretty crazy on engine appearance and you'll be seeing a lot more stuff in the thread now that I have the @#$%&* floor pans done. Never again!!! Next time somebody gets paid to do it , not me!
I did go pretty crazy on engine appearance and you'll be seeing a lot more stuff in the thread now that I have the @#$%&* floor pans done. Never again!!! Next time somebody gets paid to do it , not me!
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I would say it depends on how much money and time you have to spend.
Both are fine engines with a lot of potential, however the LS1 will cost you more to buy and much more to install; after all the LT1 basicly a refined small block chevy that can be packaged fairly easily into a third gen chasis. The LS1 will require custom motor mounts, exhaust, PCM, wiring harness, also you will have to sort out the instrument panel interface (most of th LS1 guage information is digital), you may have to modify the accessory brackets, the front cossmember or perhaps both. And then there is the returnless fuel system, you get the point.
Both are fine engines with a lot of potential, however the LS1 will cost you more to buy and much more to install; after all the LT1 basicly a refined small block chevy that can be packaged fairly easily into a third gen chasis. The LS1 will require custom motor mounts, exhaust, PCM, wiring harness, also you will have to sort out the instrument panel interface (most of th LS1 guage information is digital), you may have to modify the accessory brackets, the front cossmember or perhaps both. And then there is the returnless fuel system, you get the point.
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Ya, that is my problem, that I why I was looking at the LT1 also, I hear they are easier and cheaper to install. Right now, I am leaning toward the LT1 just for that fact that they are cheaper and easier. It all depends on how much money I will have.
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Oops do not hit the enter button while quick posting huh. Anyway I love the idea of a LS1 third gen, I have considered doing it myself, but decided that the chances of me finishing the project in my lifetime would be pretty slim. I think that if you add up all the time and money you would spend on an LS1 swap, it would cost less to just buy a fourth gen LS1 that you could drive immediately. (thats what I did, but I do miss the IROC)
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I want to make kinda of a sleeper out of this too. Most people think that the third gen is a slow POS as far as camaros go. I would love to see the look on their face when I smoke the hell out of them. By the time I am done, I want the car to put over 500hp to the wheels using all motor. I then might add either a supercharger or twin turbo it depending on how things go. I wouldn't mind just getting a fourth gen LT1 or LS1, but that just doesn't seem as fun in the end, you know?
Originally Posted by 98LS1Jay
I want the car to put over 500hp to the wheels using all motor.
the LS1 would be the best choice for a stealthy conversion. If done right and you stay with the EFI it will easliy fit under a stock hood too. I'm going carb on mine(I think) and have the hood for it but every time I see my stock hood sitting there it makes me think about a sleeper. I could bolt the factory 16's back on it with a good set of DR's and hurt some cobra boys feelings..... 
Originally Posted by 98LS1Jay
I want to make kinda of a sleeper out of this too. Most people think that the third gen is a slow POS as far as camaros go. I would love to see the look on their face when I smoke the hell out of them. By the time I am done, I want the car to put over 500hp to the wheels using all motor. I then might add either a supercharger or twin turbo it depending on how things go. I wouldn't mind just getting a fourth gen LT1 or LS1, but that just doesn't seem as fun in the end, you know?
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
I'm sure you already know this, but I have to say it anyway. If you setup your motor to put down over 500 rwhp N/A, you will have to change your whole topend to go to a FI setup. Heads, cam, pistons will all need to be different in order to lower your compression ( heads and pistons)and not bleed off boost(cam timing). Just something to consider.
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Question: Why does the LS1 cost less in the long run? From what I have found online, LT1 parts are alot cheaper, and there seems to be more mods available. Let me know the details. Thanks.