the old "alternator wiring"? again
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the old "alternator wiring"? again
so i have a 71 chevelle with a carb LS engine.question on wiring my alternator. i have a alt with 4 pin harness plug. from what i understand i need to run a switched 12v with a resistor to the B terminal. for the output wire can i just run it to the horn relay? thats where the original wire went.
with my old ext volt regulator unplugged can i connect that brown#4 wire to anything to keep idiot light working?
thanks for any help! cant wait to b able to fire up this motor
i have searched alot for answer but find just a ton of different answer. i hope someone here has same or close situation as me.
thanks alot!
with my old ext volt regulator unplugged can i connect that brown#4 wire to anything to keep idiot light working?
thanks for any help! cant wait to b able to fire up this motor
i have searched alot for answer but find just a ton of different answer. i hope someone here has same or close situation as me.
thanks alot!
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I am going through this now. I have a DR44G with a 4 pin regulator. When tested at O'reillys the output is 14.6V. I have an indicator light (idiot light) in the dash wired to switched 12V and then to the L terminal. With engine running, output is 13.8V. Next I'm connecting the sense terminal to the 12V power from battery to the starter. I think that will vary the alternator output dependent on load.
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Alternator Wiring
It should now be obvious how to wire a CS-series / 4-terminal alternator, but just to summarize:
PLFS-type
Mandatory connections:
1) Connect the alternator output terminal (B or Bat) to the electrical system's main distribution point (bus bar, junction, etc.) Less optimal alternatives that will work include connecting it to the battery + terminal or a terminal on the starter motor that also connects to the battery + terminal.
2) Connect the L terminal to a source of switched ignition power through an indicator lamp wired in series. Also connect a 50 Ohm resistor in parallel with the indicator lamp so that if the bulb burns out, the alternator will still be excited.
3) Ensure there is a good ground connection between the bare alternator case, the mounting bracketry and the engine block/heads and/or install a dedicated ground wire from the engine block to the alternator's ground terminal (if it has one).
Crucial connections:
4) Strictly speaking, the alternator will work with only the three wiring connections listed above, but I consider it crucial for good performance that you also wire up the remote voltage sensing terminal. To do this, connect the S terminal to the vehicle electrical system's main power distribution point (bus bar, main switch, fuse panel, etc.). If the S remote voltage sensing terminal is not connected, the voltage regulator will revert to internal sensing of the alternator output terminal voltage - with all the limitations that brings. You will see some alternators wired with a short jumper wire from the S terminal directly to the battery connection at the back of the alternators, but this is neither the proper method for remote voltage sensing nor necessary for internal sensing - do it properly or leave it out.
Optional connections:
5) If you have an external device such as a tachometer, hourmeter, or other device, it may be connected to terminal P. Connect the device in the manner specified by the manufacturer of the device.
This is a diagram of such a CS-series, PLFS alternator wired using terminals L, S, and BAT.
It should now be obvious how to wire a CS-series / 4-terminal alternator, but just to summarize:
PLFS-type
Mandatory connections:
1) Connect the alternator output terminal (B or Bat) to the electrical system's main distribution point (bus bar, junction, etc.) Less optimal alternatives that will work include connecting it to the battery + terminal or a terminal on the starter motor that also connects to the battery + terminal.
2) Connect the L terminal to a source of switched ignition power through an indicator lamp wired in series. Also connect a 50 Ohm resistor in parallel with the indicator lamp so that if the bulb burns out, the alternator will still be excited.
3) Ensure there is a good ground connection between the bare alternator case, the mounting bracketry and the engine block/heads and/or install a dedicated ground wire from the engine block to the alternator's ground terminal (if it has one).
Crucial connections:
4) Strictly speaking, the alternator will work with only the three wiring connections listed above, but I consider it crucial for good performance that you also wire up the remote voltage sensing terminal. To do this, connect the S terminal to the vehicle electrical system's main power distribution point (bus bar, main switch, fuse panel, etc.). If the S remote voltage sensing terminal is not connected, the voltage regulator will revert to internal sensing of the alternator output terminal voltage - with all the limitations that brings. You will see some alternators wired with a short jumper wire from the S terminal directly to the battery connection at the back of the alternators, but this is neither the proper method for remote voltage sensing nor necessary for internal sensing - do it properly or leave it out.
Optional connections:
5) If you have an external device such as a tachometer, hourmeter, or other device, it may be connected to terminal P. Connect the device in the manner specified by the manufacturer of the device.
This is a diagram of such a CS-series, PLFS alternator wired using terminals L, S, and BAT.
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Can you elaborate more on what the S connection actually does?
The GMPP LS harnesses only have one wire going to the L terminal.
I am in the process of doing the wiring on my Cougar and I can easily add the S wire, but I would like to better understand it's purpose.
Andrew
The GMPP LS harnesses only have one wire going to the L terminal.
I am in the process of doing the wiring on my Cougar and I can easily add the S wire, but I would like to better understand it's purpose.
Andrew
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Can you elaborate more on what the S connection actually does?
The GMPP LS harnesses only have one wire going to the L terminal.
I am in the process of doing the wiring on my Cougar and I can easily add the S wire, but I would like to better understand it's purpose.
Andrew
The GMPP LS harnesses only have one wire going to the L terminal.
I am in the process of doing the wiring on my Cougar and I can easily add the S wire, but I would like to better understand it's purpose.
Andrew
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Thanks guys. This seems like a simple thing to incorporate when installing from scratch. I don't have a Gen light in the dash and all of my gauges will be displayed through the Holley digital dash. I actually have the L terminal wired into an output on the Holley Dominator harness. I have it programmed to energize when the RPM are above 250.
Where would be the best place to run the S terminal? I am thinking of running it to where the main feed comes into the stock fuses on my Cougar. The fuse panel gets power from a main feed from under the hood and it is likely the place where the most voltage drop would occur. Seems like a good spot?
Andrew
Where would be the best place to run the S terminal? I am thinking of running it to where the main feed comes into the stock fuses on my Cougar. The fuse panel gets power from a main feed from under the hood and it is likely the place where the most voltage drop would occur. Seems like a good spot?
Andrew
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Thanks guys. This seems like a simple thing to incorporate when installing from scratch. I don't have a Gen light in the dash and all of my gauges will be displayed through the Holley digital dash. I actually have the L terminal wired into an output on the Holley Dominator harness. I have it programmed to energize when the RPM are above 250.
Where would be the best place to run the S terminal? I am thinking of running it to where the main feed comes into the stock fuses on my Cougar. The fuse panel gets power from a main feed from under the hood and it is likely the place where the most voltage drop would occur. Seems like a good spot?
Andrew
Where would be the best place to run the S terminal? I am thinking of running it to where the main feed comes into the stock fuses on my Cougar. The fuse panel gets power from a main feed from under the hood and it is likely the place where the most voltage drop would occur. Seems like a good spot?
Andrew
Sounds like a good place for S terminal wire.
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The wire that goes to my L terminal is controlled by the Dominator ECU. It is dead until the engine is running, minimum RPM of 250. I can even program it to shut off when TPS is above a certain %, so there is less drag at WOT....but I probably won't do that. Do you see any issues with that?
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This good to know . Mine light is always on when running . Charges fine . I could not get a answer on why it was doing this . I thought I had a bad regulator . I will add the S wire and see what happens . This has always annoyed me .
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So is using a bulb in line for L optional or can I just use 470 ohm resistor? Can I put the wire that goes to my original dummy light into P? It did go into my old external voltage regulator. Can F and S come from fuse panel accessory plug?
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My L terminal connected to switched 12v through a light in the dash, excites the alternator and the light goes off when alternator starts charging.
When I had the Ford engine and 3G alternator, it was wired identicall to this one and worked fine. If alternator output drops, indicator light comes on due to difference of potential.
At least on this alternator/voltage regulator, I'm hoping the "sense" terminal works off varying 12v.
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I may be wrong about the L terminal. Just found this on Yellow Bullet...
if you have the dr44g truck alt you dont need to wire a resister or bulb in..it will default to 13.8 an then just run the cable from the post back to the batt or kill switch like this pic..i like to run the power up to a batt junction box up front..then power for fuse block,switch panel and starter i pull from that..heres a basic pic to give you a idea..read the holley directions for connecting the ecu to a kill switch..its at the bottom of the pink sheet that came with the ecu..if you dont have it then to save some time heres what it says.
if you have the dr44g truck alt you dont need to wire a resister or bulb in..it will default to 13.8 an then just run the cable from the post back to the batt or kill switch like this pic..i like to run the power up to a batt junction box up front..then power for fuse block,switch panel and starter i pull from that..heres a basic pic to give you a idea..read the holley directions for connecting the ecu to a kill switch..its at the bottom of the pink sheet that came with the ecu..if you dont have it then to save some time heres what it says.