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My offer from before stands - if you wanna talk it through, reach out. Alignment refers to the bell positioning the tranny input shaft right in the center ofbthe crank. Most trannies don’t tolerate being more than .005” off very well - especially in high stress operation. Parallel refers to the face of the bell (tranny mounting surface) being parallel to the face of the flywheel. Your pic shows you trying to measure alignment. Perfect world - mount indicator so it rotates around the bell opening; zero it; as it rotates it would stay at zero all the way around. To measure parallel you rotate the indicator so the tip is on the FACE of the bell. Rotate the crank 360 and see how readings vary as you go around the face of the bell.
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I measured for parallel with my one of my new tools - the digital caliper... the face of the flywheel is parallel with the aft plate of the Bellhousing - I forgot to tell that above - I/we did that before using magnetic base and dial indicator.
Yes, the fancy clutch alignment tool appeared to work much better than a plastic equivalent ever has - high confidence in that bad boy.
We took five 360 degree tours around the aft opening of the Bellhousing... each time my readings at each quadrant were different - 3 of 5 of those attempts were part of learning curve with tools... I felt good about my tool positioning and how secured the tool was to Flywheel and housing lip... and numbers were within the stated spec range. So I put clutch set up on.
Next Monday, I may just go try again - while I wait on solution for my tri-lite bearing adapter to show up.
Yes, the fancy clutch alignment tool appeared to work much better than a plastic equivalent ever has - high confidence in that bad boy.
We took five 360 degree tours around the aft opening of the Bellhousing... each time my readings at each quadrant were different - 3 of 5 of those attempts were part of learning curve with tools... I felt good about my tool positioning and how secured the tool was to Flywheel and housing lip... and numbers were within the stated spec range. So I put clutch set up on.
Next Monday, I may just go try again - while I wait on solution for my tri-lite bearing adapter to show up.
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This video is informative -
and so is this one -
If parallel is out when checking, verify the powder coat is not on the face of the bellhousing. If it is, remove it (non-rotary tool) and check again.
Concentricity is fixed with offset dowel pins.
and so is this one -
If parallel is out when checking, verify the powder coat is not on the face of the bellhousing. If it is, remove it (non-rotary tool) and check again.
Concentricity is fixed with offset dowel pins.
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New Part in, continue time
My QM throw out bearing adapterfor V8 car came in mail today.
Now I can bolt in my fancy Quarter Master Tri-Lite bearing using a special adapter.
These two parts joined will then allow me to install my transmission through my new clutch/Bellhousing/flywheel and all attach all to new motor.
That all pretty remarkable and enough for month of June.
All of my measurements for parallel and concentricity are verified with proper tolerances and it’s time for the 1 man band to use a trans jack to marry splined shaft with splined clutch parts, etc!!!
Now I can bolt in my fancy Quarter Master Tri-Lite bearing using a special adapter.
These two parts joined will then allow me to install my transmission through my new clutch/Bellhousing/flywheel and all attach all to new motor.
That all pretty remarkable and enough for month of June.
All of my measurements for parallel and concentricity are verified with proper tolerances and it’s time for the 1 man band to use a trans jack to marry splined shaft with splined clutch parts, etc!!!
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Simple marketing math-
1) They have it. + 2) You need/want it. = They get whatever they want for it
1) They have it. + 2) You need/want it. = They get whatever they want for it
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Role reversal time
2) Someone else will need one too
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I’ll modify the design by 10% to accommodate rules, and offer a smiling buying decision for someone in the future.
That said, each time I visit a local dirt track store (Smileys), it’s amazing to me how ‘cheap’ this or that part is as compared to a similar component if I were shopping for any BMW I have ever owned... or any other acquisition I’ve ever made.
Yep, surely good work if u can get it
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I've owned BMW M3's for the past 15 years and I don't think parts cost any more than American cars. Granted the only way I can afford an M3 is if I maintain it myself! Forget the dealerships at $125-$150/hour!
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Delay in progress due to...
... the length of the piston of the QM Tri-Lite Release Bearing was not the correct length - too long - which after appropriate measure comparison, my Trans/Tri-Lite Release Bearing was going to push in to pressure plate fingers by .256”.
So, it took some days to find my was fwd.
QM advisor solution = shorter-pistoned release Bearing by .400”.
That shorter release bearing piston showed up today... pics show length comparison and new Air Gap measure (spoiler alert = we now have air gap)
Note the blk shaft behind bearing face - that’s the piston that was too long
Fresh Measurements with new parts
The shorter-pistoned release bearing... notable difference.
Neat Pic
So, it took some days to find my was fwd.
QM advisor solution = shorter-pistoned release Bearing by .400”.
That shorter release bearing piston showed up today... pics show length comparison and new Air Gap measure (spoiler alert = we now have air gap)
Note the blk shaft behind bearing face - that’s the piston that was too long
Fresh Measurements with new parts
The shorter-pistoned release bearing... notable difference.
Neat Pic
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I guess I should continue to...
... fake it till I make it!!!
Time to spin engine pallet 1/2 way around - the use trans floor jack to help with Transmission connection.
Im guessing I should stick all this in car - like, Tomorrow!!!
Time to spin engine pallet 1/2 way around - the use trans floor jack to help with Transmission connection.
Im guessing I should stick all this in car - like, Tomorrow!!!
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Progress... and then —->
So... a play on words is in order...
... right after my “Quick Time” Out
Dammit
As does happen, you don’t see a nick of material sticking up and off of the transmission case until you slice the tip of your finger on it... while wrangling a 100+lb inanimate object in 90 degree garage with 100% humidity. My math may not be stellar, but the arithmetic adds up to 100% bullish:t!!!
... right after my “Quick Time” Out
Dammit
As does happen, you don’t see a nick of material sticking up and off of the transmission case until you slice the tip of your finger on it... while wrangling a 100+lb inanimate object in 90 degree garage with 100% humidity. My math may not be stellar, but the arithmetic adds up to 100% bullish:t!!!
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I ‘was’ proud
Using alignment tool again because it feels so good going in.... and out - and in... so I get tool out after trans is ligned up ‘perfectly’... Uhmm No such thing as perfect Dude!
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You are just TOO nice Michael.....
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I need info help
Maybe the Power that Is, added a layer of pause in my progress for a reason... so, Question to any listening ears:
Should I put some lube on the trans shaft?!?!
Lube on the piston of the Tri-Lite bearing?!?!
(I’ll review QM instructions tonight)
At sun sun up tomorrow I need to get this stuff together and install - Tomorrow - not next Friday!!!
Also, a few awesome parts coming in for this car - for inside on the driver side - pics manana on that too
Should I put some lube on the trans shaft?!?!
Lube on the piston of the Tri-Lite bearing?!?!
(I’ll review QM instructions tonight)
At sun sun up tomorrow I need to get this stuff together and install - Tomorrow - not next Friday!!!
Also, a few awesome parts coming in for this car - for inside on the driver side - pics manana on that too