99 new edge mustang 4.8 lsx turbo swap
06-15-2019, 06:30 PM
#601
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I’ll throw the ss2 in the 5.3.
As crazy as it sounds I’m pretty bummed about throwing a 5.3 in this car lol. I love seeing the look on people’s faces when I tell them it’s a 4.8. Most people that aren’t really familiar with Ls’s (at least people I come across) seem to think if it’s not a 5.3 or 6.0 it’s slow.
5.3 should make great power and will be stronger so it’s really a win win.
As crazy as it sounds I’m pretty bummed about throwing a 5.3 in this car lol. I love seeing the look on people’s faces when I tell them it’s a 4.8. Most people that aren’t really familiar with Ls’s (at least people I come across) seem to think if it’s not a 5.3 or 6.0 it’s slow.
5.3 should make great power and will be stronger so it’s really a win win.
06-16-2019, 08:32 PM
#602
Looks like a new one
That’s the #2 main. #1 showed some pitting too. Anyone have any ideas on what could have caused this?
ive been doing a little reading and seems that with using the fbody pan and cutting quick 60’ times it can uncover/starve the pick up? Is this true?
That’s the #2 main. #1 showed some pitting too. Anyone have any ideas on what could have caused this?
ive been doing a little reading and seems that with using the fbody pan and cutting quick 60’ times it can uncover/starve the pick up? Is this true?
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06-17-2019, 10:56 AM
#603
it could, when i was building my car it was going to be drift car so i ended up getting a baffled oil pan from canton and it was great quality let me say but now im doing a drag car and well it will still save me since it has an amazing baffle system. i would look into either a baffled oil pan or perhaps one of those accu sump system thing? not sure what its called.
btw im glad the intercooler really did change your car. as funny as it sounds i had a friend do the same over the weekend and he noticed the change in his IAT
his was sitting around 170-190 i think'? now it sits on 117 i think?
i told him to relocate the IAT might help too.
btw im glad the intercooler really did change your car. as funny as it sounds i had a friend do the same over the weekend and he noticed the change in his IAT
his was sitting around 170-190 i think'? now it sits on 117 i think?
i told him to relocate the IAT might help too.
06-18-2019, 01:46 PM
#604
it could, when i was building my car it was going to be drift car so i ended up getting a baffled oil pan from canton and it was great quality let me say but now im doing a drag car and well it will still save me since it has an amazing baffle system. i would look into either a baffled oil pan or perhaps one of those accu sump system thing? not sure what its called.
btw im glad the intercooler really did change your car. as funny as it sounds i had a friend do the same over the weekend and he noticed the change in his IAT
his was sitting around 170-190 i think'? now it sits on 117 i think?
i told him to relocate the IAT might help too.
btw im glad the intercooler really did change your car. as funny as it sounds i had a friend do the same over the weekend and he noticed the change in his IAT
his was sitting around 170-190 i think'? now it sits on 117 i think?
i told him to relocate the IAT might help too.
Head studs, ring filing grinder, oil pan gasket, oil pump pick up tube and cam retainer cover came in today. Just waiting on my headgaskets and I’ll throw this five tree together
06-18-2019, 02:18 PM
#605
Man ever since we spoke about the terminator x ive been looking into pretty bad man! i kinda wanna jump on it, sell my harness, sell my pcm and sell my wideband since the terminator comes with a wideband already! but just worried over a bit of the setup you have to do and such. but im sure its WELL worth it! i was going to get my harness reloomed to make it look nice but i might just sell it as is and try to go from there...
only crappy part is that the terminator is out of stock till almost 2 months ( 7 30 19 ) but ill have to do so.
do you think with the base map the terminator gives you i can at least move the car around and what not untill i have time to put it on the dyno at least. i have alot of work to do still but ugh just wanna get the damn computer.
only crappy part is that the terminator is out of stock till almost 2 months ( 7 30 19 ) but ill have to do so.
do you think with the base map the terminator gives you i can at least move the car around and what not untill i have time to put it on the dyno at least. i have alot of work to do still but ugh just wanna get the damn computer.
06-18-2019, 02:24 PM
#606
TECH Enthusiast
i got an updated email yesterday for my x max saying it was delayed again till july 31. at first they said it should ship out by the middle of this month but it isnt happening.
06-18-2019, 03:04 PM
#607
I’d be all over a terminator x right now too if they were in stock, especially since my harness is completely undone.
i know nothing about any of the terminator x stuff right now but it seems easy to get a start up tune going and possibly be able to move it around
i know nothing about any of the terminator x stuff right now but it seems easy to get a start up tune going and possibly be able to move it around
06-18-2019, 03:09 PM
#608
TECH Enthusiast
since you only need the x you might be able to call around and find one. from what they guy said at pace performance yesterday when i called they only make 2 or 3 versions of the x max and thats why those were on backorder. i got a while till im up and running with the truck so i dont really mind the wait.
06-18-2019, 04:29 PM
#609
ill wait. i gotta finish my intercooler pipng and paint the bay
by july i should be able to get it if not aug for sure. selling my wideband to a friend and gotta get rid of the harness.
by july i should be able to get it if not aug for sure. selling my wideband to a friend and gotta get rid of the harness.
06-19-2019, 07:45 AM
#610
since you only need the x you might be able to call around and find one. from what they guy said at pace performance yesterday when i called they only make 2 or 3 versions of the x max and thats why those were on backorder. i got a while till im up and running with the truck so i dont really mind the wait.
stock. I did find the 550-904 which has the truck style injector plugs but wanted the cleaner look of losing the ev1 to truck injector adaptors
06-19-2019, 07:56 AM
#612
I got another question for you guys and I’m just curious really. Every dyno vid I see are fairly short quick pulls. When my tuner throws my car on the dyno, it’s a full 3rd gear to rev limiter160-170mph pull. Is there a reason behind this? Just seems harder on the car then it really needs to be but I’m not a tuner and haven’t seen many cars on the dyno in person
not pointing fingers or trying to place any blame, was just curious
Last edited by RobertD; 06-19-2019 at 08:45 AM.
06-19-2019, 10:33 AM
#614
Launching!
Could be different types of dynos. With a pure inertial dyno, like a Dynojet with no optional equipment added, you're just measuring the angular acceleration of the drum. Higher horsepower cars will accelerate the drum faster, lower horsepower or longer-geared cars will take longer. On that type of dyno, how long the pull takes is just a question of physics. With a load bearing dyno, it is often possible for the operator to specify a ramp rate in RPM-per-second, or otherwise manipulate how fast the dyno accelerates.
I personally prefer to do longer pulls. I usually rent time on some Dynapacks, and I set them to a ramp rate of about 500 RPM / sec. I prefer this for two reasons. First, on a turbo car, if the ramp rate is too fast, the engine tends to "run away" from the turbo, sort of like how when you are actually driving the car, you don't necessarily see full boost in first gear if you mat it from a stop because the engine RPMs rise faster than the turbo can spool up. A longer pull in a higher gear ensures that you'll see more of the area where the engine could, potentially, operate in boost, and it'll also be easier to detect other conditions that wouldn't show up in a shorter pull, like boost creep. Secondly, there is a lot of time-dependent stuff that goes on, particularly in fueling--tip-in modifiers, modifiers for rapid changes in MAP, etc. It is often easier to tune near-steady-state operation first, and then work on transient behavior afterward.
I personally prefer to do longer pulls. I usually rent time on some Dynapacks, and I set them to a ramp rate of about 500 RPM / sec. I prefer this for two reasons. First, on a turbo car, if the ramp rate is too fast, the engine tends to "run away" from the turbo, sort of like how when you are actually driving the car, you don't necessarily see full boost in first gear if you mat it from a stop because the engine RPMs rise faster than the turbo can spool up. A longer pull in a higher gear ensures that you'll see more of the area where the engine could, potentially, operate in boost, and it'll also be easier to detect other conditions that wouldn't show up in a shorter pull, like boost creep. Secondly, there is a lot of time-dependent stuff that goes on, particularly in fueling--tip-in modifiers, modifiers for rapid changes in MAP, etc. It is often easier to tune near-steady-state operation first, and then work on transient behavior afterward.
06-19-2019, 11:19 AM
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Man I would definitely recommend going with the term X, I discussed this with my brother and thankfully convinced him to go that route instead of stock pcm and hptuners. I'm not even sure what all safety features can be configured with it but practically any safety stuff is worth its weight in gold when compared to the ZERO safety you get with a stock pcm.
06-19-2019, 11:48 AM
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Man I would definitely recommend going with the term X, I discussed this with my brother and thankfully convinced him to go that route instead of stock pcm and hptuners. I'm not even sure what all safety features can be configured with it but practically any safety stuff is worth its weight in gold when compared to the ZERO safety you get with a stock pcm.
06-19-2019, 11:52 AM
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We're planning on using his pcm and harness on an old CJ5, something that doesnt need the safety stuff as much.
For the past 2-3 years I've mentioned to my friends about how I dislike not having the safety and don't plan on building another fast project without it, then a few weeks ago I popped my truck engine so I'm kinda salty about it...still haven't figured out exactly what went wrong, data log looks perfect so i'm a bit paranoid. Still not sure what im going to do with it yet