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Old 12-12-2017, 04:43 PM
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I'm curious to see how the Hooker plates work out for you with your solid engine mounts, since they were validated for fitment with the Prothane poly mounts only during development. I'll stay tuned to see how things go for you.
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I'll post pics of how it fits for you.
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:35 PM
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Looks good, keep it up.

What headers are you planning on using? Im going through a swap right now 04 Mustang 6.0/T56.
Ive come to the conclusion that the aluminum blocks look nicer than my old rusty iron block haha.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:09 PM
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i have a set of GTO, 2010 camaro, and the 01 truck headers that came off the donor truck.

hoping to use the camaro ones for the time being. they fit the pass side no problem, drivers side id need to trim the flange just a hair to clear the steering shaft with the old mounts, im unsure where itll put me with the hooker mount adapters as it moves it forward, might be worse. Ill have to find out. im not opposed to cutting one of these up and making something work.

when its turbo time i was looking at using the hooker log manifolds.
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Originally Posted by dan95gst View Post
i have a set of GTO, 2010 camaro, and the 01 truck headers that came off the donor truck.

hoping to use the camaro ones for the time being. they fit the pass side no problem, drivers side id need to trim the flange just a hair to clear the steering shaft with the old mounts, im unsure where itll put me with the hooker mount adapters as it moves it forward, might be worse. Ill have to find out. im not opposed to cutting one of these up and making something work.

when its turbo time i was looking at using the hooker log manifolds.
How close is it with the factory rag joint, im having issues with mine clearing.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:40 PM
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the camaro manifold looked like it needed 1/4 or so shaved off the lower flange outside edge to clear. but im running sold mounts so i wont need to worry about flex as much as say if you had a rubber mount.

once i get the motor in with the new setup ill post some pics of what ended up where and what i needed to change to make it work.
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Old 12-13-2017, 07:25 PM
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How much did you pay for the Camaro manifolds?

Thanks.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:05 AM
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i got them for free. a friend talked to a performance shop he knows and it was as set from a pile of scrap metal they have to recycle.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:06 PM
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Swapped the manual pedal assembly for the auto one tonight and removed the auto shifter cable from the tunnel. Started eyeballing how the underhood harness goes. Installed a prndl switch into the 80e and removed the bit of cut cable that was on it. About an hour or so messing around with it getting things done a bit at a time.
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Originally Posted by dan95gst View Post
Swapped the manual pedal assembly for the auto one tonight and removed the auto shifter cable from the tunnel. Started eyeballing how the underhood harness goes. Installed a prndl switch into the 80e and removed the bit of cut cable that was on it. About an hour or so messing around with it getting things done a bit at a time.
My understanding is that with the auto car steering column that if you remove that cable that use to go to the shifter area is that while driving the car you can remove the key because it does not lock it in place. I am switching to a manual steering column for a piece of mind.
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:11 AM
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where did you get that information? ive never heard of it before.
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Originally Posted by dan95gst View Post
where did you get that information? ive never heard of it before.
http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-swap-how.html

Basically that cable when using the stock auto shifter engages the ignition key lock when in anything but park. So that when you are in drive you cant turn the car off and take the key out without returning to park.

Are you using the stock shifter? Or are you using a manual shifter valve body?
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Old 12-15-2017, 10:00 AM
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im going to run the trans in automatic but i was going to put an aftermarket shifter in it so i have control of all 4 gears. the stock mustang one only had PRND21 vs PRND321
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Originally Posted by dan95gst View Post
im going to run the trans in automatic but i was going to put an aftermarket shifter in it so i have control of all 4 gears. the stock mustang one only had PRND21 vs PRND321
I remember looking at the B&M Shifter when i was still ford powered and it recommended keeping the interlock cable for this reason.

I might be wrong, but its something worth investigating if you plan on daily driving this at all. Would hate to see the car roll if you dont pull the emergency gear and dont lock the trans in park.
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:54 PM
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its going to be track use only and honestly i dunno if im gunna use the key at all.

maybe for unlocking the column but if this is true then ill have to find a way to integrate the interlock into the shifter mechanism of the aftermarket ones. or maybe make the interlock a manual operation with a pull tab or something.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Manual column should have a pull tab.

No problem just wanted to let you know haha.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:11 AM
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Sunday we got the motor home for good and started massaging the trans tunnel to clear the 80e



got the new flex plate installed


in its new home



so much room



one downside of the hooker mounts i dont have pics of is now my camaro exhaust manifolds are all up into the steering shaft on the drivers side and kmember on the passenger side so im going to need to cut the flanges off and zap some pipe onto it to get it out of the engine bay. but the engine being away from the firewall is worth it.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:13 AM
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@Toddoky

here are some pics of placement with the solid mounts




if you have any particular shots you want LMK and ill take em for you.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:40 AM
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after some test fitting, i think i decided im going to have to use the LS6 manifold i have on my shelf instead of the truck manifold and switching to a different water pump and buying an alternator mount from somewhere to bring it lower. it could work with a 4+ inch cowl but in what id spend finding a cowl hood thatll clear ill probably end up cheaper getting a waterpump and a bracket for the alt and a fuel rail.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:16 AM
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You should have a much easier time getting your 4L80 in now with your new engine position.

If your protractor is reading accurately, you'll want to get the tail of the transmission up to decrease the engine inclination angle you're at right now (looks like 4 or 5 degrees in the photo).

The inclination angle achieved by the use of the Hooker engine plates and transmission crossmember with the Holley 302-2 or 302-3 oil pans is 2.5 degrees. If you can get your inclination angle to 3 degrees, (relative to the rocker panels being at 0 degrees), you should be in a good static place as you can shim the trans mount from there a little if needed in your final set-up.

The interference you encountered with the stock Camaro exhaust manifolds is something that was given zero consideration during development of the Hooker components as they are not designed as universal use parts; they are designed for compatibility with the Hooker long-tube headers, LS cast iron manifold kit and turbo manifold kit.

When used as complete system there are zero interference issues, but when various components are used from the system in a cherry-picked fashion, there are bound to be interference issues that arise with components from other sources.

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