Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

98 mustang LS swap w/ 7875 turbo

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-08-2018, 10:51 AM
  #81  
TECH Junkie
 
Toddoky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,546
Received 203 Likes on 123 Posts

Default

Yes,I haven't been under a car in a while to know what the discrete amount of factory offset is towards the passenger side, but it's at least 3/4" on all 1979-04 Mustangs. The majority of domestic cars built in the last 50 years were designed in the same manner, so it's typical.
Old 08-08-2018, 11:22 AM
  #82  
TECH Apprentice
 
dan95gst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts

Default

yea it was my first time building a cross member and was totally unaware of it.
Old 08-09-2018, 12:51 PM
  #83  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default


Old 08-09-2018, 12:56 PM
  #84  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
RobertD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Independence, KY
Posts: 511
Received 33 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Man that pan hangs low
Old 08-09-2018, 02:57 PM
  #85  
TECH Senior Member
 
G Atsma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Cal.
Posts: 20,878
Received 3,022 Likes on 2,353 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RobertD
Man that pan hangs low
WAAAY too low....
Old 08-10-2018, 08:14 PM
  #86  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

A buddy of mine has a 2000 mustang with a 4.6 and it has a MMR oil pan on it and it sticks lower then that gm muscle car pan does below the k member he has.
Old 08-11-2018, 10:01 PM
  #87  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default


Made some progress
Old 08-11-2018, 10:48 PM
  #88  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default


Old 08-12-2018, 12:53 AM
  #89  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (78)
 
dmracing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: HERE
Posts: 2,149
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

That oil pan is hanging down to low for my liking also.
Old 08-12-2018, 01:00 AM
  #90  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

It only hangs about 1 inch lower then the trans pan. And it for sure doesn't hang any lower then the rear end. Has anyone actually measured the distance off the ground with this pan? I know it hangs lower then most like but had anyone actually read it and had issues with it hitting on things?
Old 08-12-2018, 06:43 AM
  #91  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
RobertD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Independence, KY
Posts: 511
Received 33 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dan95gst
I'm doing a 99 currently and am having to beat the **** out of the tunnel to clear the 80e with enough room to be serviceable without having to drop it for everything.
is a 80 that much bigger then a 400? My 400 fits like a glove
Old 08-12-2018, 06:47 AM
  #92  
TECH Junkie
 
Toddoky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,546
Received 203 Likes on 123 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by RobertD


is a 80 that much bigger then a 400? My 400 fits like a glove
Yes it is.
Old 08-12-2018, 06:48 AM
  #93  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
RobertD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Independence, KY
Posts: 511
Received 33 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Hot side is looking good so far. Are you going to run dual wastegates or a single?
Old 08-12-2018, 07:32 AM
  #94  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

Going to run one. It will be right below the t4 flange. I got to finish welding it all out then I'll cut the hole for the wastegate and weld it. I leave for work tomorrow so I won't get anything done for 2 weeks after today. I got a bunch to do around the house today. I'm going to try and get the whole hotside finished and welded today at some point.
Old 08-12-2018, 10:07 AM
  #95  
TECH Regular
 
Dimeomboost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Emory Texas currently
Posts: 484
Received 18 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

My oil pan hangs low enough I wouldn't even post a pic of it on here due to critics but I will say it hangs lower than yours. The s10 with a truck pan usually does ok but I made my own mounts so I could clear a high ram with a stock hood.it doesn't hit loading on trailer so I'm happy with it. If u know it hangs low then u make sure u adjust for it
Old 08-12-2018, 10:47 AM
  #96  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

I'll more then likely just run it. Like I stated in an earlier post, I have a friend with a 4.6 and a MMR pan and it's lower then this pan is.
Old 08-13-2018, 06:29 AM
  #97  
TECH Regular
 
SwapStang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Worcester, Mass
Posts: 424
Received 41 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Toddoky

You’re going to be having a different experience clearancing your tunnel than dan95gst also since the AJE K-member and engine brackets moves the engine and trans away from the stock right side engine offset towards the center of the car.
Does the AJE k member really shift the motor and trans that badly? I used my stock K member and everything fit like it was designed that way by chevy and ford. Even using the stock uncut driveshaft. I only had to lightly massage where my shift linkage arm was and the electrical plug. The AJE seems to be the norm on these and people throw 80e's in them all the time.
Old 08-13-2018, 09:54 AM
  #98  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default


Old 08-13-2018, 09:57 AM
  #99  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Kyle.t91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 525
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
Default



Old 08-13-2018, 10:03 AM
  #100  
TECH Junkie
 
Toddoky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,546
Received 203 Likes on 123 Posts

Default


Originally Posted by SwapStang
Does the AJE k member really shift the motor and trans that badly? I used my stock K member and everything fit like it was designed that way by chevy and ford. Even using the stock uncut driveshaft. I only had to lightly massage where my shift linkage arm was and the electrical plug. The AJE seems to be the norm on these and people throw 80e's in them all the time.
"Badly" wouldn't be the word I would use as it is the alignment they, Team Z and other K-member companies collectively use to locate the engine on their K-members that do not use the stock frame stand geometry. Centering the engine in the chassis does introduce an increase in compound U-joint working angles when you are using it a stock rear end and the fitment difficulties it will create will vary between transmissions. In the case of a 4L80/4L85 transmission, centering the engine will provide more clearance for the rear transmission cooler line, but at the same time will decrease the amount of clearance available for the shift linkage and electrical harness connector on the left side of the case.

If you are running a turbo set-up that wouldn't be much of an issue, but if you are needing to run a dual 3" exhaust system on the car, you will run out of room quickly. Most of the K-member companies will comment that they provide the centering of the engine as a benefit to allow more room for header clearance, but I don't see the need for it as long as headers are available that are designed to fit the car well with the engine positioned at the stock passenger side offset position. The other geometric modification related to the aftermarket K-members that most users are not aware of is the movement of the steering rack attachment position from the stock left/right position. AJE moves the rack a 1/4" to the left of the stock position and AJE moves it 3/4" to the right of the stock position, both of which contribute greatly to the differences in header fitment that is experienced between users of different K-members.

This photo shows a LS/4L80 combo mounted on the stock K-member in an SN95 using the Hooker Blackheart engine adapter plates and transmission crossmember (the Hooker Blackheart 3" exhaust system is also pictured) and this is all designed around the stock passenger side engine offset. If a user wanted to use an AJE or Team Z K-member and maintain this same engine/transmission position, that would be easily done by simply using engine brackets designed specifically for that purpose as opposed to using the engine brackets that AJE and Team Z sell for their K-members. Such bracket sets have already been developed and released for the Fox Body application, and I'm working on the same for the SN95/New Edge application now.


Quick Reply: 98 mustang LS swap w/ 7875 turbo



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:34 PM.