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Old 08-11-2018, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Vetteman61
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Do you have a link to the type of fittings I would need to fit into the 4L60E that would allow me to use a regular flare for a 3/8" brake line? Also, according to Griffin website, the fitting on the Radiator are 1/4" NPT. I'm not sure what type of fitting I would have to connect to these in order to run a standard parts store 3/8" line and use be able to use the standard flaring tool I would rent from the parts house. I don't own any other flaring tools so all the lines I'm going to make will have to be done with the rent-a-tool.

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Off the top of my head I cannot remember what size the fittings are thats on the lines you get, the lines i used had the fittings on them and
I did not have to flare anything. Check these out but make sure the fitting size 2 is correct for the fittings on the lines. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/r...yABEgKRsPD_BwE
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I'm going to order the copper nickel line.

For the fittings I'm confused. Brake lines use inverted flare fittings. I'm reading that the stock lines for the 4l60e are 3/8, so I'd think finding fittings in 3/8 would be easy, but I'm having a hard time finding any 3/8 inverted flare fittings. Most are 1/2 or 3/16. Am I missing something?

My radiator has 1/4 NPT fittings: (fitting I need) = 1/4 NPT male to 3/8 inverted flare female.
4L60E transmission has 1/4 NPS fittings: (fitting I need) = 1/4 NPS male to 3/8 inverted flare female.

Am I correct here? Then the line would run standard 3/8 inverted flare nuts. The fact that the 3/8 size fittings are harder to find it's making me think I have something incorrect. Why do I keep seeing 3/16 so often?

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You see 1/4 and 3/16 because those are the two most common brake line sizes. You can buy these at any auto parts store, just ask for 3/8 flare nuts. https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/440248-131280
Old 08-17-2018, 11:35 AM
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I'm having trouble finding the 1/4 NPS fitting to 3/8 inverted flare. I can find all the other sizes, but not 1/4 to 3/8. I can find the NPT fitting on McMaster Carr for the radiator, but I can't find the NPS fitting anywhere. Even Fastenall couldn't get them. I'd think these would be a common fitting since these transmission have 1/4 NPS fittings in them and people use 3/8" for transmission lines.
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For 3/8 tubing I believe you would want 5/8-18 inverted flare fittings.
https://www.summitracing.com/search/...7%2B4294863155

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Originally Posted by blackhawkMC
For 3/8 tubing I believe you would want 5/8-18 inverted flare fittings.
https://www.summitracing.com/search/...7%2B4294863155

That would make sense since I've been unable to find the 3/8 anywhere, and for something this common I can't believe that no suppliers offer them. Why does a 3/8 cooler line use a 5/8 fitting?
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The 5/8 is the thread size, not the opening size.
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Dont you have the transmission that came out of the car? It will have the fittings you need.
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brake line is fine, 3/8 and the stock cooler is fine as well. i personally like the look of the brake line, with nice bends its a very clean look IMO
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This was really confusing for me, I suppose because it's all new and I'm not familiar with the sizings. OK, from taking what you guys have told me and looking it up, I'm going to spell it out in case someone else needs the info: 3/8" tubing (transmission line) takes a 5/8 - 18 Inverted flare nut. I was about to order it all and realized one last question:

If my radiator is aluminum, what type of metal should I get for the fittings? Most of the fittings are brass, but my understanding is that brass and aluminum are not friends.


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Originally Posted by Vetteman61
If my radiator is aluminum, what type of metal should I get for the fittings? Most of the fittings are brass, but my understanding is that brass and aluminum are not friends.
I've always used brass fittings with no problems. The factory put brass fittings in aluminum transmission cases...
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OK, thanks. I ordered the brass fittings and it all came in today. Do you put any kind of coating on the brass fittings when you install them in aluminum?
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Where are you going to put the temp gauge? Big difference in reading the temp right out of the transmission on it's way to the radiator vs pan temp.
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I'm not using a temp gauge
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Originally Posted by Vetteman61
OK, thanks. I ordered the brass fittings and it all came in today. Do you put any kind of coating on the brass fittings when you install them in aluminum?
I just put a little bit of Teflon tape or pipe thread sealer on them.
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Gotcha. Thanks Nova, your experience and advice has been exceptionally helpful. I appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by gsteele
Where are you going to put the temp gauge? Big difference in reading the temp right out of the transmission on it's way to the radiator vs pan temp.
Originally Posted by Vetteman61
I'm not using a temp gauge
All GM automatic overdrive transmissions have a temperature sensor in the valve body that can be read by the PCM.
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Really? I had no idea about that. That's awesome. I don't need it for this application as I won't be towing, but I put a 700R4 behind a 1971 Pontiac Grand Safari station wagon that I built for my wife (and she subsequently totaled and now I'm going to have to rebuild). I put on a class III receiver hitch and we plan on towing with it. It has a 455 and air shocks, so in Blues-Brothers'-Fashion, it should be ready to hit it once I get the new dog house back on.




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