LS3 - First gen Camaro- accessories
#1
LS3 - First gen Camaro- accessories
Hello gents. I’ve been lurking around for a while, learning as much as I can. I’ve done a bunch of searching and I’ve read through many threads and I’m not finding the answers I’m looking for. I got an LS3 and TR6060 out of a 2013 Camaro that I’m putting in a 68 Camaro. I’m certainly not as skilled as many of you guys but I’ve got some good people helping me out. Here’s my question... I’ve decided that I want to keep the AC compressor and alternator mounted low. And while I’m certainly not qualified to do much fab work at all, I’ve got someone who is very good willing to help. I know that when I start test fitting things these questions will answer themselves but I want to be as prepared as possible. If we’re already willing and capable to notch the frame, is there any reason the factory compressor and alternator brackets won’t work?
Thank you for your help. I’m looking forward to posting a build thread in the future.
Thanks,
Jeff
Thank you for your help. I’m looking forward to posting a build thread in the future.
Thanks,
Jeff
#2
I believe most have used 4th gen Camaro accessories. Keeps the alt down low. I don't think the low mount ac compressor will fit without major notching of the frame. Most mount up high on the right side cylinder head. 4th gen oil pan. Check clearance on the steering and pitman arm to oil pan.
#3
I believe most have used 4th gen Camaro accessories. Keeps the alt down low. I don't think the low mount ac compressor will fit without major notching of the frame. Most mount up high on the right side cylinder head. 4th gen oil pan. Check clearance on the steering and pitman arm to oil pan.
#4
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Alan Groves makes a low mount A/C bracket that keeps the compressor about as tight to the motor as it can be. But it's for the typical Sanden compressor - if you're using the GM unit I don't think it works. I used the Grove mount and an ICT low Alt. mount on mine. With struts, I didn't have to worry about subframe clearance.
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#5
Alan Groves makes a low mount A/C bracket that keeps the compressor about as tight to the motor as it can be. But it's for the typical Sanden compressor - if you're using the GM unit I don't think it works. I used the Grove mount and an ICT low Alt. mount on mine. With struts, I didn't have to worry about subframe clearance.
#6
Well I put the motor in for the first test fit yesterday and realized that it will be impossible to mount the compressor low. At least with the Hooker motor mounts I’m using that is. Time to come up with another plan. I’m thinking that I’ll forget about the AC for now, that’s money I can spend elsewhere anyway. And I’ll definitely still need to notch the frame for the alternator.
#7
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It's been done many times and being that 1st gens are a popular swap there are lots of articles on the subject if you do a web search.
Like Camaro and Firebird LS Swap: Front-Drive Accessory Guide
And plenty of swap components that make swaps simple. Like Holley's 1967-69 GM F-Body LS Swap Components
One thing to keep in mind is that many headers were built to fit for these swaps but need matched motor mounts to place the engine in the correct position to fit correctly.
Like Camaro and Firebird LS Swap: Front-Drive Accessory Guide
And plenty of swap components that make swaps simple. Like Holley's 1967-69 GM F-Body LS Swap Components
One thing to keep in mind is that many headers were built to fit for these swaps but need matched motor mounts to place the engine in the correct position to fit correctly.
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#8
It's been done many times and being that 1st gens are a popular swap there are lots of articles on the subject if you do a web search.
Like Camaro and Firebird LS Swap: Front-Drive Accessory Guide
And plenty of swap components that make swaps simple. Like Holley's 1967-69 GM F-Body LS Swap Components
One thing to keep in mind is that many headers were built to fit for these swaps but need matched motor mounts to place the engine in the correct position to fit correctly.
Like Camaro and Firebird LS Swap: Front-Drive Accessory Guide
And plenty of swap components that make swaps simple. Like Holley's 1967-69 GM F-Body LS Swap Components
One thing to keep in mind is that many headers were built to fit for these swaps but need matched motor mounts to place the engine in the correct position to fit correctly.
#10
If I end up doing it at some point it looks like that will be the best option. I just got it in my head a long time ago that I didn’t want it up there and I suppose I’m just being stubborn about it now.
#12
The Holley low-mount A/C and ALT/PS accessory brackets can be installed at the truck offset position. That characteristic, combined with the Holley low-mount A/C compressor bracket being designed for use with the smaller Sanden SD7B10 compressor, may permit you to more easily obtain your goal of running low mounted accessory drive components in your application.
#13
The Holley low-mount A/C and ALT/PS accessory brackets can be installed at the truck offset position. That characteristic, combined with the Holley low-mount A/C compressor bracket being designed for use with the smaller Sanden SD7B10 compressor, may permit you to more easily obtain your goal of running low mounted accessory drive components in your application.
#14
Since reading your reply I remembered that I have some CAD models that I can use to be able to determine if the Holley low-mount A/C bracket will clear the Hooker Blackheart right side engine mounting bracket. That will at least let you know those two components will play nice together before you commit to ordering parts.
#15
That would be great! It looks to me like it would definitely work in the “long alignment” but that it will be be very close in the “middle alignment”. I’m hoping the middle will work, that way I don’t have to change the water pump.
#17
I have been able to confirm that the Holley low-mount A/C compressor set-up is compatible for use with the Hooker Blackheart 1st-gen F-Body LS swap engine brackets when run at the truck FEAD offset only; it will not install at the F-body or Corvette offsets (experiences interference with the right side engine bracket at those offsets). The attached image depicts the relationship of the engine bracket and the A/C set-up at the truck spacing.
Last edited by Toddoky; 03-05-2019 at 09:34 AM.
#20
I think you will still need the frame notched , Toddoky is an awesome asset to us on this forum
The first ls swapped vehicle I saw back in the day was a 69 camaro , same subframe as a 68 , speed and performance had done alot of the work , it had a low mount ac compressor and a large sub frame cut and reinforcement
The first ls swapped vehicle I saw back in the day was a 69 camaro , same subframe as a 68 , speed and performance had done alot of the work , it had a low mount ac compressor and a large sub frame cut and reinforcement