A taste of our own medicine
02-13-2009 | 09:52 PM
#21
That's because twin turbos on an ls-series engine looks very suspiscious. Hell, the 2JZ only made a shade over 200 hp stock N/A.
I'm not against making stupid power with any setup, but people seem to think the Supra engines were direct descendents of the gods. In reality, they were built to handle boost, that's about it.
Don't get me wrong, it's a sick setup, although it sounds ricey. But congratulations on making 1000 hp with twin turbos.
750 streetable hp N/A is much more impressive.
I'm not against making stupid power with any setup, but people seem to think the Supra engines were direct descendents of the gods. In reality, they were built to handle boost, that's about it.
Don't get me wrong, it's a sick setup, although it sounds ricey. But congratulations on making 1000 hp with twin turbos.
750 streetable hp N/A is much more impressive.Cool swap, and hella power production.
2JZ's are to import guys, what an LS1 is to a domestic guy. LS1's are swapped into far more things then 2JZ's are.
If this makes people so angry, ill build a RB26DETT to replace my LQ4.
Would be interesting! But i wouldnt do it.
Anyways, im impressed, cool car, nice power production.
02-13-2009 | 11:42 PM
#22
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Yeah I saw that...got my whole Hot Rod collection up for sale right now...in fact I got a ton of mags up for sale and only keeping the LS issue of Custom Trucks. It's pretty much the only one that pertains to my plan of having both trucks LS powered.
I'll swap a Chevy motor into anything...still dreaming of someday getting a Vega and going nuts, but a TOY motor in anything is not on the radar...they should be ashamed!
Speaking of that...has anyone swapped and LS into a Vega?
I'll swap a Chevy motor into anything...still dreaming of someday getting a Vega and going nuts, but a TOY motor in anything is not on the radar...they should be ashamed!
Speaking of that...has anyone swapped and LS into a Vega?
02-14-2009 | 02:42 AM
#23
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I can't decide if that's fucked up or awesome. Nonetheless props to the builders. Very nice work.
And yes I would say the same about an LSx in a supra. I see the RX7s a bit different because Rotary's are **** for street driven performance applications.
He said n/a, so he's probably talking about the non turbo models.
And yes I would say the same about an LSx in a supra. I see the RX7s a bit different because Rotary's are **** for street driven performance applications.
Umm, 2JZ was 320hp stock?
Cool swap, and hella power production.
2JZ's are to import guys, what an LS1 is to a domestic guy. LS1's are swapped into far more things then 2JZ's are.
If this makes people so angry, ill build a RB26DETT to replace my LQ4.
Would be interesting! But i wouldnt do it.
Anyways, im impressed, cool car, nice power production.
Cool swap, and hella power production.
2JZ's are to import guys, what an LS1 is to a domestic guy. LS1's are swapped into far more things then 2JZ's are.
If this makes people so angry, ill build a RB26DETT to replace my LQ4.
Would be interesting! But i wouldnt do it.
Anyways, im impressed, cool car, nice power production.
02-14-2009 | 07:43 AM
#25
The motors really don't do too well in terms of powerband or torque. V8 anyday for me. Interesting swap though, some chevy guy apparently watched tokyo drift a few too many times. Car looks super clean, can't complain about their build quality, just strange motor choice IMO.
02-14-2009 | 09:12 AM
#26
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Yeah their terrible. Datsun IRS and all .... street driven to and from the track. This is before the turbo upgrade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qOWw2s-QM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Z...40Z_104277.htm
PS - I have an LS1 in my Z but had to share this one
Cameron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qOWw2s-QM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Z...40Z_104277.htm
PS - I have an LS1 in my Z but had to share this one
Cameron
02-14-2009 | 02:37 PM
#28
putting a 2jz in a 69 camaro is like giving a girl breast reduction surgery it was given this gift by god they smaked him in the face with it. shure it makes 1000 hp but to do that it must be making at least 35 to 40 psi if not more. and at that point you've lost you're street manners. plus the turbo is so big that it probiblly never ever spools up so yea it makes 1000 peak hp but avg hp is probiblly junk. i understand why they get mad when we put our engines in there cars but to me it makes sense....why put a huge turbo on a little motor and only make peak hp when you can just have some extra cubes and make power everywhere. as far as rotary engine swaps go i actually understand them the most, although i hate rotarys they are not to common and i could see how a enthusiast would hate to see them thrown away. but over all the the biggest problem with this camaro is the sound. if i ever herd a ricer flyby and turned around to see a camaro doing it .... i think i would cry .....end rant
02-14-2009 | 02:59 PM
#30
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i dont like like the car really i just dont agree with th emotor its totally out of place and like mentioned before that cant be a driver....it just shows that with enough money anything could be done....whats next a camaro hybrid?
02-14-2009 | 06:26 PM
#33
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putting a 2jz in a 69 camaro is like giving a girl breast reduction surgery it was given this gift by god they smaked him in the face with it. shure it makes 1000 hp but to do that it must be making at least 35 to 40 psi if not more. and at that point you've lost you're street manners. plus the turbo is so big that it probiblly never ever spools up so yea it makes 1000 peak hp but avg hp is probiblly junk. i understand why they get mad when we put our engines in there cars but to me it makes sense....why put a huge turbo on a little motor and only make peak hp when you can just have some extra cubes and make power everywhere. as far as rotary engine swaps go i actually understand them the most, although i hate rotarys they are not to common and i could see how a enthusiast would hate to see them thrown away. but over all the the biggest problem with this camaro is the sound. if i ever herd a ricer flyby and turned around to see a camaro doing it .... i think i would cry .....end rant
Engine swaps that make ridiculous power are awesome no matter how you cut it. Especially with all the work involved in brand swapping. If you can't appreciate a car with a swapped motor and 1000hp then don't consider yourself a car nut; more a GM nut, ford nut, yota nut or whatever motor you prefer.
I'd never do it, but it's cool nonetheless.
02-14-2009 | 07:07 PM
#35
Engine swaps that make ridiculous power are awesome no matter how you cut it. Especially with all the work involved in brand swapping. If you can't appreciate a car with a swapped motor and 1000hp then don't consider yourself a car nut; more a GM nut, ford nut, yota nut or whatever motor you prefer.
I'd never do it, but it's cool nonetheless.
I'd never do it, but it's cool nonetheless.
02-15-2009 | 12:32 PM
#38
Real gearheads do these types of swaps to be unique. I put an LS1 in my RX7...so what. I plan on putting a rotary engine in a 240Z... who cares??
I do it because I love fast cars. I love building cars to suit my taste, not yours. I think that this is an awesome swap. Bravo to a job well done!
I do it because I love fast cars. I love building cars to suit my taste, not yours. I think that this is an awesome swap. Bravo to a job well done!
02-15-2009 | 02:05 PM
#39
Check the facts. The -GTE version in the Supra was 320 hp. The 2JZ-GE (non-turbo) made between 215 and 230 hp depending on application. My point is that they make no power N/A - anyone can throw turbos onto an engine and make huge numbers. It's still a nicely-done project, though.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_JZ_engine
The addition of twin turbochargers, jointly developed by Toyota with Hitachi, in sequential configuration had raised its commercially-cited output from 225 hp to the, then, industry maximum of 280 hp at 5600 rpm. In its first appearance, torque was advertised as 320 lbft to be later recited as 335 lbft with the introduction VVT-i in 1997. The mutually-agreed, industry-wide output ceiling was enforced by Japan's now-defunct "Gentlemen's Agreement" exclusively between Japanese automakers selling to the Japanese domestic market. For the North American and European markets, power was raised to 320 hp DIN (229 kW) at 5600 rpm.
