LS1 into 240sx
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Launching!
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From: Durham, NC
Just to be clear - it's not possible to simply move suspension bits around to convert a rear steer car to front steer or vice-versa. You'd end up with anti-ackerman and the car would handle like shibbit or even be dangerous. To change steering, you'd need to completely redo the suspension with steering arms meant for the application.
That C5 pan is very, very fat. Surprised you can fit it in there.
That C5 pan is very, very fat. Surprised you can fit it in there.
Originally Posted by cubano
TERABYTE - do you have a web page for the pics? I'd like to see what you've done to the car.
http://webmail.crescentheights.com/images/240a.jpg
http://webmail.crescentheights.com/images/240b.jpg
http://webmail.crescentheights.com/images/240c.jpg
Depending on how hardcore you are, you could aways just do what I did and go with a dry sump setup. I bought an ARE (www.drysump.com) pan and notched it out to fit over my crossmember. It allowed me to set the engine CRAZY low in the chassis and still not have any ground clearance issues. Bad part, it costs a lot of money to do this. I bought everything other than the pan used and I still have over $2K in my oiling system 
Originally Posted by Derek 357i
Depending on how hardcore you are, you could aways just do what I did and go with a dry sump setup. I bought an ARE (www.drysump.com) pan and notched it out to fit over my crossmember. It allowed me to set the engine CRAZY low in the chassis and still not have any ground clearance issues. Bad part, it costs a lot of money to do this. I bought everything other than the pan used and I still have over $2K in my oiling system
Teching In
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From: California
im planning an LS1 swap into a BMW Z3, it too is rear steer. if you take this swap really seriously you may want to do what i plan, tub the firewall and set the engine behind the rack entirely, or at least far enough for the pan to clear. it would definitely be a weight distribution improvement and help out with traction. but the Z3 also has a longer front end than a 240sx
Originally Posted by 98c1500
im planning an LS1 swap into a BMW Z3, it too is rear steer. if you take this swap really seriously you may want to do what i plan, tub the firewall and set the engine behind the rack entirely, or at least far enough for the pan to clear. it would definitely be a weight distribution improvement and help out with traction. but the Z3 also has a longer front end than a 240sx
Launching!
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From: Durham, NC
You're going to have a rear weight bias with the Z3. The 240sx, I dunno, maybe it is better to put the sump behind the rack.
I just don't see why this:
wouldn't be the best option? It's working in a Z32 swap and has worked for BMW swaps.
I just don't see why this:
wouldn't be the best option? It's working in a Z32 swap and has worked for BMW swaps.
Teching In
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Originally Posted by cubano
I've been thinking about doing this swap for a long time now. I was wondering if anyone's done a LS1/T56 swap into a Nissan 240sx (95-98).
The 240sx is similar to a Mazda RX-7 in dimensions (but cheaper to buy), so it should be possible. I've followed Brian Hinson's build up and his RX-7 seems real nice.
Any responce would be greatly appreciated.
The 240sx is similar to a Mazda RX-7 in dimensions (but cheaper to buy), so it should be possible. I've followed Brian Hinson's build up and his RX-7 seems real nice.
Any responce would be greatly appreciated.
Launching!
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From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by 98 Bandit TA
jeromio, does that pan have any problems with pick-up at certain loads?
These are more expensive than FBody pans, but it's gotta be cheaper than tearing up firewall, moving rack, etc.
I would ask Sean (valvegod@aol.com) for details - I'm pretty sure he can get these as seconds for a very good price. I bought a holden intake from him for $40.
Teching In
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From: Salinas
Uh Oh another CA engine swap
Doomed before starting?
Sounds like a kewl swap and would like to go head to head
but will it end up like mine?
I am completely finished with the swap but for registering it with BAR. Whats your plan on going to the referee?
Are you installing all Smog/A.I.R. equipment, and the O2 sensors? Including the fuel tank and wheel speed sensors?
Just bringing up what can happen at the end....mine sits in the driveway waiting for me to move out of state
Briguy280Z pics
Doomed before starting?
Sounds like a kewl swap and would like to go head to head
but will it end up like mine?I am completely finished with the swap but for registering it with BAR. Whats your plan on going to the referee?
Are you installing all Smog/A.I.R. equipment, and the O2 sensors? Including the fuel tank and wheel speed sensors?
Just bringing up what can happen at the end....mine sits in the driveway waiting for me to move out of state
Briguy280Z pics
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Teching In
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From: Orange County, Ca.
Briguy280z
Nice pics, car looks nice. If you have any questions about understanding CA smog laws, check out this site I ran across:
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Che..._V-8_Smog.html
JTR write manuels on how to swap V8 into Jaguars/Volvos/S-10s/Astro vans, cars that weren't equipped with V8. They are based out in CA and have delt with smog laws for many years. This site is very informative and will clear many questions about CA smog laws.
Engine swaps are legal in CA, you just need to do a little extra to make it street legal. Best thing is nothing that is required will hinder the performance of a daily driver to any noticable degree.
Nice pics, car looks nice. If you have any questions about understanding CA smog laws, check out this site I ran across:
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Che..._V-8_Smog.html
JTR write manuels on how to swap V8 into Jaguars/Volvos/S-10s/Astro vans, cars that weren't equipped with V8. They are based out in CA and have delt with smog laws for many years. This site is very informative and will clear many questions about CA smog laws.
Engine swaps are legal in CA, you just need to do a little extra to make it street legal. Best thing is nothing that is required will hinder the performance of a daily driver to any noticable degree.
Last edited by cubano; Nov 11, 2003 at 04:06 PM.
Teching In
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From: Salinas
Cubano,
Jags that Run has been around for a long time, i purchased there book when i first started a SBC engine swap, after awile i decided to convert it to a LS-1 swap. Well this is a larger animal than what Jags that Run would like to take on. OBD-I is one thing but OBD-II is completely different. I will give them a call to see what they think but the last thing i have seen from them is a TBI swap OBD-I
Thanks
Briguy280z
Jags that Run has been around for a long time, i purchased there book when i first started a SBC engine swap, after awile i decided to convert it to a LS-1 swap. Well this is a larger animal than what Jags that Run would like to take on. OBD-I is one thing but OBD-II is completely different. I will give them a call to see what they think but the last thing i have seen from them is a TBI swap OBD-I
Thanks
Briguy280z
Launching!
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From: Durham, NC
Yes, I believe the OBDII swap in Cali is a daunting dealio. A guy on HybridZ.org sold his LS1 powered Z car due to the certification issues. But then again, another Cali guy bought it, so.... 
Seems foolish for Cali to make it difficult for someone to remove their old, inefficient, polluting carbureted motor and replace it with a modern, clean burning computer controlled mill. Must be frustrating as hell. I actually have yet to get my car inspected. State regs here are much more relaxed though.
Perhaps you could glue an air cleaner on the top of the intake manifold and tell them it has a carb?
Seems foolish for Cali to make it difficult for someone to remove their old, inefficient, polluting carbureted motor and replace it with a modern, clean burning computer controlled mill. Must be frustrating as hell. I actually have yet to get my car inspected. State regs here are much more relaxed though.
Perhaps you could glue an air cleaner on the top of the intake manifold and tell them it has a carb?
That is why I love Florida so much...
At any rate I picked up my LS1 today. Might be a little pricey but these guy's are 5 minutes from me and they come recommended by others on the net.
http://www.tacreationsusa.com/
It's a 99 Pontiac 32K w/ T56, clutch hydraulics, drive shaft, ecu, wire harness, pedal assy, and even a Hurst shifter; $3700
As they were about to put it in my truck when they noticed a small leak from the tail housing, owner of the place swapped it off another tranny that had other problems. They cleaned the part, and reinstalled it in less than an hour. On the easy drive home I had a smirk from ear to ear thinking of what’s to come. For now it sits in my rear room under wraps until I'm ready to move along with the project.
Tommarow I have to swap a junkyard KA24DE into the other 240 that's going to be my daily.
At any rate I picked up my LS1 today. Might be a little pricey but these guy's are 5 minutes from me and they come recommended by others on the net.
http://www.tacreationsusa.com/
It's a 99 Pontiac 32K w/ T56, clutch hydraulics, drive shaft, ecu, wire harness, pedal assy, and even a Hurst shifter; $3700
As they were about to put it in my truck when they noticed a small leak from the tail housing, owner of the place swapped it off another tranny that had other problems. They cleaned the part, and reinstalled it in less than an hour. On the easy drive home I had a smirk from ear to ear thinking of what’s to come. For now it sits in my rear room under wraps until I'm ready to move along with the project.
Tommarow I have to swap a junkyard KA24DE into the other 240 that's going to be my daily.
Originally Posted by LS1swap
A 99 LS1 with T56 for $3700 is a very good price IMO.
Now I feel it's a great deal.
BTW Incase anyone is looking they will sell a complete pullout LT1 w/ M6 for $2500 - $2800 more or less depending on condition.