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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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I have been looking at my harness lately and can't find the plugs for my O2 sensors and my MAF, is it possible to run these motors with a basic program and not use these sensors?

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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I have heard of them being run without the MAF and just the o2 sensors but never without both but I don't know maybe. If it were carbureted then yea but I wouldn't think it could be done with fuel injection
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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If I understand GM's open-loop and "limp-home" strategies well enough, you should be able to get by without both, since it should default to the MAP and preset fuel tables, but I dunno why you'd do without oxygen sensors in a system like this? or no MAP without an SD-only tune? I mean I could forsee it it you just wanted to get things started, but...
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:46 AM
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I just did a ls1 conversion into a 91 camaro and it has ZERO 02 sensors. NONE. and never will have any besides a wide band while im tuning it.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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Try disconnecting the MAF from your daily driver and see how far you go.

Beyond that do a search on speed density tunes.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Hell, you can take a piston out and still make it run, but why would you want to? I ran my LS1 in my '33 without a maf when starting it for the first time, and several times after that, but it fouled the plugs in short order and then wouldn't even run. Just my experience.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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gotta love the ball bustin
thanks for all the answers i guess I'm gonna have to get another harness or carb it
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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You can run without the MAF and O2s....it's called open loop speed density. If you are confident in your tuning abilities you can make a OLSD car run fine.

Personally, from an engine safety perspective, I would run Closed Loop SD if you are set on running without a MAF.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by muncie21
You can run without the MAF and O2s....it's called open loop speed density. If you are confident in your tuning abilities you can make a OLSD car run fine..
exactly,,, i m running my 5.3 in my chevelle with niether one of them, temperarly.. spark plugs look perfect to me,.. i'll be running wideband.. i recondmend on getting one if ur tuning urself..
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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I'm not running with a MAF, im using O2s though. Not having a MAF doesnt really matter. Unplug the MAF on your LT1 or LS1 and drive without it, i didnt even lose 1mpg with it unhooked in my LT1.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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ive been running my lq4 without a maf but only due to me accidently backing over it lol time to check the classifieds
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Lol i have a Z06 Maf from an 01 i believe i'll sell you for 40 shipped. Its the de-screened version. I've had it laying around for ever.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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is it a 5 pin like a truck
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