58' Chevy Pickup
58' Chevy Pickup I have an 04 GTO with some mild work done, (see sig). Im going to be transplanting my stock bottem end into my truck (58' chevy apache). I have a set of stock heads for it and plan on a baby cam. I dont want much if any power out of it. I just want a car that runs well, cranks cold and gets good mileage. I will also be transferring my T-56 into the truck as well as try to use the stock supsension and rear end from the goat. I know that sounds crazy but I think it will ride nice and shouldnt be to bad. What Im wondering is how I should go about everything. I would like to do Fuel injection ( I have stock injectors as well) but Im on a budget. (about $8000 total, with paint wheels&tires and all) What should I do about a wiring harness and ECU or should I just say Smurf it and go Carb. Also with the T-56 how much of a pain is that gonna be with all the hydraulics and so on. The GTO doesnt need to keep anything but the ECU and harness. The next tranny will be a th-400 and next rear end will be a 9". I appreciate all the info so be mean.
My buddy just picked up a 68 C10. We are putting a stock 5.3 in it with a 4l60e. IMO.... Keep the injection as it will help with mileage and driveability. For a harness, there are plenty of standalone aftermarket solutions out there. ECU, you could go with a 411 PCM and drive by cable to keep cost down.
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Could you please break that down for me. What exactly is a 411 PCM and where would I get one. How easy would it be to tune and I planed on doing a cable driven setup anyway. That drive by wire stuff scares me.
411 PCMs were used from 99 up to 03(input requested) in Camaros/Firebired/Corvettes and trucks. They have the Red/Blue PCM connectors. Nice thing is that PCM can support drive by wire or drive by cable, it is just a function of the tune. Tuning is straight forward. Nice thing from a wiring standpoint is that there is less wiring involved when compared with the newer Green/Blue PCMs. Hope that helps.
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There are quite a bit of nice harnesses out there. Not too sure about the $350 one. Search standalone harness on ebay you will find quite a bit of stuff.
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Still have a few questions on this and will be buying parts soon so any help is appreciated. Specifically I need to know about the tranny and how much, if any, electrical stuff there is to go with it and where I should start with my ecu and harness??? Also advice on A/C stuff will help me for this spring when I try to finish it up.
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For the hydraulics you might be able to just reuse all the stuff from the GTO, the electrical on the other hand isn't that hard, but if I were to do it again I would order one of those standalone harnesses from EBAY and use an Fbody computer.
Thanks for the pics. Im going to be home in about 2 months and really tear into this thing. I have a few questions but I will just break out a list. Everyone feel free to add to the list as you see its needed.
Engine and ECU
ECU- 99 or newer mounted in cab (get at junkyard) PRICE???
Harness- will get aftermarket (found on ebay) $350
Engine- already have minus intake and cam
Intake&cam- LS1 or LS6 whatever I get my hands on and baby cam (215ish duration, 525ish lift.
Tranny
Tranny- all hydraulics can go from goat
Tranny elect- I know it has a couple of things but not sure, need help here.
Rear End
Rear end- from the GTO measures 66" hub-hub. Close to first gen camaro sizes.
suspension- use the irs from the goat, (will have to make lower A-arm mounts and shock mounts up top) I dont think it will be to difficult.
brakes- Already there just make some new lines
Body stuff
Suicide door kit (my hinges are gone and these are cheaper)
Entire bed- leaning towards a 88-98 stepside bed but I need a PICTURE!!!!
wheels- TTII's baby!!!! gonna go 18x10's and 17x9's
Engine and ECU
ECU- 99 or newer mounted in cab (get at junkyard) PRICE???
Harness- will get aftermarket (found on ebay) $350
Engine- already have minus intake and cam
Intake&cam- LS1 or LS6 whatever I get my hands on and baby cam (215ish duration, 525ish lift.
Tranny
Tranny- all hydraulics can go from goat
Tranny elect- I know it has a couple of things but not sure, need help here.
Rear End
Rear end- from the GTO measures 66" hub-hub. Close to first gen camaro sizes.
suspension- use the irs from the goat, (will have to make lower A-arm mounts and shock mounts up top) I dont think it will be to difficult.
brakes- Already there just make some new lines
Body stuff
Suicide door kit (my hinges are gone and these are cheaper)
Entire bed- leaning towards a 88-98 stepside bed but I need a PICTURE!!!!
wheels- TTII's baby!!!! gonna go 18x10's and 17x9's
ECU- 99 or newer mounted in cab
Werewolf, if you really want to get trick, extend the cab on one!
Good luck on the project(s)
Pat
