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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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Default 7.4L BBC Ram Jet and 2008 Corvette E38 ECM

This engine has been somewhat of a personal project I've wanted to do for the past few years (using a Ram Jet manifold on a production 7.4L BBC).

Here's a video of the engine running on a test stand.
http://www.eficonnection.com/RamJet454/58xRamJet454.wmv




My S10 briefly had an electronic throttle Ram Jet 350 system with LS1 PCM (until being replaced with a TPI manifold). I do prefer the Ram Jet intake over the TPI.



Anyway...back to the big block. I'm still not sure why we had to machine 0.080" from each side of the lower manifold to make it fit properly. The Ram Jet 502 engine is not a tall deck and the 454 is not a tall deck. Any ideas?



The 2008 Corvette ECM requires a 58x crank and 4x cam signal for operation. The 4x cam signal was welded to the face of a 7.4L cam sprocket and the upper 8.1L timing cover was welded to the lower 7.4L timing cover to pick up the cam signal. It's functional, but the cam signal from the distributor is preferred (shown in video).



This opens up incredible tuning opportunities for this BBC (with EFILive or HP Tuners) and the use of the 6L80E/6L90E transmission. It also allows for tap shifting.

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That is impressive. Is this something that you are planning on offering as a kit? I am sure BBC users everywhere would be excited to be able to use the late model fuel injection. Your heads weren't milled were they? I guess that is the easiest answer as to why you would have to mill the intake.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 08:31 AM
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That is impressive. Is this something that you are planning on offering as a kit? I am sure BBC users everywhere would be excited to be able to use the late model fuel injection. Your heads weren't milled were they? I guess that is the easiest answer as to why you would have to mill the intake.
Unfortunately there are currently issues with getting a crank signal from an early BBC from within the timing cover. Even though you can bolt a Gen VI timing cover to a Mark IV block, no oil pan or oil pan gasket exists to seal it all up. Most BBC guys have a Mark IV block.

The engine is a stock 1999 7.4L with no machining to the heads. I personally pulled the stock intake from the engine, so I know it hasn't been modified. Very strange, huh?

BTW...I like your daily driver. I also own a 2003 Silverado SS (since Aug 2003).
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I had a GEN VI 454HO crate motor in my Elcamino and used the stock low rise square port 569 intake. No problems sealing that I know of. Unfortunately I warrantied the engine (twice) due to oil consumption and ended up getting my money back. My buddy has a nearly new Gen V multiport setup sinning on the shelf . It is off of like a 97 truck. BTW I love my Silverado SS and it is the best color Arrival Blue!
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Very interesting.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowtie70SS
BTW I love my Silverado SS and it is the best color Arrival Blue!
I couldn't agree more. (pic taken in Aug 2003 the day it came home)


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for the mark IV block you could mate the rear of the 2 piece oil pan to a mark V and VI oil pan and i think instead of using a gasket just use rtv glue or a silicone of some sort but i'm not to sure on that i'm workin on something simular but havn't figured everything out just yet.

also what wiring harness are you using???

btw it looks great
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Maybe I'm a little slow here - doesn't the modded timing chain cover solve the problem - it utilizes a Mark IV pan? As mentioned - a kit for the Mark IV's would be fantastic - I've got two BBCs I'd like to convert - any updates toward this end? -Bob
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well first of dude the mark IV blocks are 2 piece rear main seal and they use a completly different oil pan that uses a completly different timing cover

And the mark V and VI blocks are 1 piece rear main seal and they use a different oil pan and timing cover completly different from that used on the mark IV blocks
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Ok thanks - wasn't completely sure what combination was being used - that's the reason for asking. BTW, name is Bob, not Dude.
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well first of dude the mark IV blocks are 2 piece rear main seal and they use a completly different oil pan that uses a completly different timing cover

And the mark V and VI blocks are 1 piece rear main seal and they use a different oil pan and timing cover completly different from that used on the mark IV blocks
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Very cool project.
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Originally Posted by S10Wildside
Anyway...back to the big block. I'm still not sure why we had to machine 0.080" from each side of the lower manifold to make it fit properly. The Ram Jet 502 engine is not a tall deck and the 454 is not a tall deck. Any ideas?
The Gen V production motor is the odd man out when it comes to cylinder heads (cooling passages are different). The Mark IV and Gen VI would be closer in relation.
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also why use the corvette harness and ecm???

couldn't i just use a 6.0 harness or something???
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Originally Posted by S10Wildside
The 2008 Corvette ECM requires a 58x crank and 4x cam signal for operation. The 4x cam signal was welded to the face of a 7.4L cam sprocket and the upper 8.1L timing cover was welded to the lower 7.4L timing cover to pick up the cam signal. It's functional, but the cam signal from the distributor is preferred (shown in video).

This opens up incredible tuning opportunities for this BBC (with EFILive or HP Tuners) and the use of the 6L80E/6L90E transmission. It also allows for tap shifting.
Just wondering, what did you end up using for your 58x signal? Was it a factory part that bolts right up or was this another modification needed to make it work?
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he had to have made the sprocket that he's using for the 58x sensor cuase the 8.1 i think is different
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also does anyone know where else i can view this video i can view it with the address that he has on here
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Originally Posted by Matt G6007
he had to have made the sprocket that he's using for the 58x sensor cuase the 8.1 i think is different
8.1 uses a 24x.
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