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Old 02-15-2010, 02:18 PM
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I have a 1998 camaro with a 3800 series engine, with a 4L60E Trans. I have a Ls1 out of a 2000 Trans Am. What all do I need to do to complete the swap? I have heard that the v6 4L60E in the v6 are smaller then the 4L60E in the Ls1. IS this true, Do I need a different trans, or just going to need LS1 computer, and engine wiring harness.

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You will need the V8 Trans..

Check this thread out..pretty much the same thing you are doing..

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...body-swap.html
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The transmissions are the same but the bell housings are different.... so your best off going with a new transmission. Also, if you have the 2 piece drive shaft, replace that now with a solid one piece aluminum, steel or CF because that 2 piece DS will go kaboom pretty quickly with an LS1....

Also their are a million other threads with this same question, might wana research it now before the rest of tech comes in to give you a hard time for asking a question that has been beaten to death....
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Knew that was coming...LOL
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your gonna need a 98 PCM and engine harness you can not use 99+ harness/PCMs to able to just "plug n play" its just better to get everything 98 including temp and oil pressure sensor but some minor rewiring is still needed really simple, and LS 4L60 will be needed and the motor mounts bracket are different --- and you will need the LS radiator since the V6 one is thin

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Originally Posted by rukus1_one
your gonna need a 98 PCM and engine harness you can not use 99+ harness/PCMs to able to just "plug n play" its just better to get everything 98 including temp and oil pressure sensor but some minor rewiring is still needed really simple, and LS 4L60 will be needed and the motor mounts bracket are different --- and you will need the LS radiator since the V6 one is thin
I appreciate the help. Seems like it might be easier and cheaper to just continue to build the v6...

Unless I can find a wrecked z28 or ss in 98 yr.

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Waste of time building the v6. There is no other motor out there in my opinion that responds to mods and makes reliable power than an LS based motor.
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Waste of time building the v6. There is no other motor out there in my opinion that responds to mods and makes reliable power than an LS based motor.

That is true, but I have seen some pretty radical v6's. Only thing you can't beat is the sound of the v8. Power the v6 are just as capable of the LS series, just take alot more cash.

Not sure what I will do I have few months to figure it out due to having a s*** ton of snow here in wv. lol...
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Originally Posted by sk8fate
That is true, but I have seen some pretty radical v6's. Only thing you can't beat is the sound of the v8. Power the v6 are just as capable of the LS series, just take alot more cash.

Not sure what I will do I have few months to figure it out due to having a s*** ton of snow here in wv. lol...
i said the same thing but i waited and as soon as i got the chance i bought a wrecked ls and i swapped everything over the v6 is kinda of a waste of money to fix up theres not much you can really do to it unless money is no object
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Not hard to push a lot of power through the 3800... Just turbo charge it and there you go....turbo charge with spray and some forged internals and you have a beast... but like someone did mention, it will still sound like a v6.
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Originally Posted by baalic
Not hard to push a lot of power through the 3800... Just turbo charge it and there you go....turbo charge with spray and some forged internals and you have a beast... but like someone did mention, it will still sound like a v6.

I am thinking of selling my car and buying a 99 SS I found for a good deal. LS1 with 6 Speed. Easier that way. lol. I have LS1 cam, Heads, Headers, and fast intake/throttle body. Had that stuff from my sisters LS1 she had pulled, and set a ls6 down in. She has a 2001 WS6 TA.

Exactly thats reason why I am really thinking of not doing the 6 bc of cant beat the sound...
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Originally Posted by sk8fate
I am thinking of selling my car and buying a 99 SS I found for a good deal. LS1 with 6 Speed. Easier that way. lol. I have LS1 cam, Heads, Headers, and fast intake/throttle body. Had that stuff from my sisters LS1 she had pulled, and set a ls6 down in. She has a 2001 WS6 TA.

Exactly thats reason why I am really thinking of not doing the 6 bc of cant beat the sound...
That really is your best choice IMO. Then you have a car that was built for the V8. If you spend all the money to swap to yours it will never be worth what you have in it.

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Originally Posted by Stu Cool
That really is your best choice IMO. Then you have a car that was built for the V8. If you spend all the money to swap to yours it will never be worth what you have in it.

Pat

That is very true. Cars only hold value of the vin, mi, and condition lol. wouldn't matter if there was 30g worth of work done book value is book value lol. I will see what happens lol...
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Book Value is crap..Mods hold a value as well..I wouldn't sell my car for the Book Value..I have that in the Tranny alone..lol..
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Book Value is crap..Mods hold a value as well..I wouldn't sell my car for the Book Value..I have that in the Tranny alone..lol..

Granted how much money you have in the car a bank wouldn't loan the amount to someone to purchase it if was above book value. Sorry but only way to sell a vehicle above book value is if someone has a ton of cash. You would prob never get out what you put into your car. Seen it to many times. Myself had a 79 camaro and I had 4G in the motor alone, and about another 5G with rear end, gears, tranny, seats, and some other things and only was able to get high book of 6900 I had 9G in mods, and paid 2500 for car...
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when we did my swap it was a 98 3.8 to a 2000 ls1

we needed

engine
tranny
wiring harness
k-member
springs/shocks
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Originally Posted by sk8fate
Granted how much money you have in the car a bank wouldn't loan the amount to someone to purchase it if was above book value. Sorry but only way to sell a vehicle above book value is if someone has a ton of cash. You would prob never get out what you put into your car. Seen it to many times. Myself had a 79 camaro and I had 4G in the motor alone, and about another 5G with rear end, gears, tranny, seats, and some other things and only was able to get high book of 6900 I had 9G in mods, and paid 2500 for car...
I know..I hear ya..I'm not looking at this as an investment..trust me..lol

If mine has to go, it's going in parts..and lots of them..

I already have all kinds of people interested in many parts of my car if I had to part it out..I'll get a good amount of money back.

But that's part of the reason I'll drive it till it falls apart..might as well get my money out of it instead of starting over.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I know..I hear ya..I'm not looking at this as an investment..trust me..lol

If mine has to go, it's going in parts..and lots of them..

I already have all kinds of people interested in many parts of my car if I had to part it out..I'll get a good amount of money back.

But that's part of the reason I'll drive it till it falls apart..might as well get my money out of it instead of starting over.
Well that is so true, sell the parts after or what not. I would run till it falls apart, that is best way to look at it lol...haha..
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I've already tore up my current chassis pretty bad..that is why I'm looking for a clean one to swap everything into.



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