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Old 04-06-2010, 06:50 PM
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I see most 4x4 conversions with the electronic trans go with a 2WD tune, but can I leave the 4wd wiring in and simply use a toggle switch when in 4Low to get the proper signal with the VSS after a manual Tcase? Or do I really need to run a 2WD tune and put the VSS before the Tcase? Im down to figuring out which transfer case and VSS location to run.
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Originally Posted by jeepnut24
I see most 4x4 conversions with the electronic trans go with a 2WD tune, but can I leave the 4wd wiring in and simply use a toggle switch when in 4Low to get the proper signal with the VSS after a manual Tcase? Or do I really need to run a 2WD tune and put the VSS before the Tcase? Im down to figuring out which transfer case and VSS location to run.
You you can just run a toggle switch on the dash or make a micro switch on the transfercase shifter itself. Some of the transfer case have the switch internal as well. So all you would need to do is hook into it.

the stock GM units have a switch in the transfer case or in the push button in the dash.

It the VSS is in the transfer case output you need the switch so the PCM knows it in 4low. If its in the adapter just run the 2wd tune.

It usally cheaper just to use the stock GM vss and 4wd tune vs a adapter VSS.
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need a 4x4 tune for the transmission to shift in 4lo
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You you can just run a toggle switch on the dash or make a micro switch on the transfercase shifter itself. Some of the transfer case have the switch internal as well. So all you would need to do is hook into it.

the stock GM units have a switch in the transfer case or in the push button in the dash.

It the VSS is in the transfer case output you need the switch so the PCM knows it in 4low. If its in the adapter just run the 2wd tune.

It usally cheaper just to use the stock GM vss and 4wd tune vs a adapter VSS.
Thanks, I have been asking you questions on pirate4x4 as well and that is the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.

On that switch, Im guessing the wire out of the harness is negative? I have just started studying the wiring diagrams and Im not sure.
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Originally Posted by jeepnut24
Thanks, I have been asking you questions on pirate4x4 as well and that is the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.

On that switch, Im guessing the wire out of the harness is negative? I have just started studying the wiring diagrams and Im not sure.
I think I posted how to wire it but its buried in the Jeep Hardcore 5.3L thread.

Pin 16 on red connector is 4low. The switch should provide a ground to that pin when the transfer case is in 4low .
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I think I posted how to wire it but its buried in the Jeep Hardcore 5.3L thread.

Pin 16 on red connector is 4low. The switch should provide a ground to that pin when the transfer case is in 4low .


Nice, Ill dig around there. Sounds like a cheaper solution to run the 241 with a switch than a conversion kit and my 231.
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Follow up question, what are the axle switch wires for? They look to be seperate from the 4Low wire.
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they connect or disconnect the front axles fro 4wd
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Hey oange ss Why would I need a 4 wheel drive tune for low range to work?
What exactly is different in the tune between a 4 wheel and a 2 wheel tune?
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Hey oange ss Why would I need a 4 wheel drive tune for low range to work?
What exactly is different in the tune between a 4 wheel and a 2 wheel tune?
Greg
4Lo transmission shift tables, without them the transmission wont shift
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Oh Ok. So I'm looking at a 2004 chev 4x4 5.3l tune in my HP Tuners VCM editor, but I cant find any 4 lo shift tables. Shouldn't I be able to change those somewhere in the tune? Or do they not show up? Greg
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Originally Posted by jeepnut24
Follow up question, what are the axle switch wires for? They look to be seperate from the 4Low wire.
They are for the auto trac transfercase and front diff actuators.


Basically the 4l switch tells the trans its had lower gear ratios. So it shift right.


It should show up in HP tuners. But you will still need the switch for the trans to shift right in 4 low.
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Originally Posted by CentralWARMK
Oh Ok. So I'm looking at a 2004 chev 4x4 5.3l tune in my HP Tuners VCM editor, but I cant find any 4 lo shift tables. Shouldn't I be able to change those somewhere in the tune? Or do they not show up? Greg
I've looked at a 2002 4x4, 2000 4x4 and a 2004 4x4 file and cant find the 4lo shift tables anywhere...I did find them in a 1998 4x4 tune...I dont know what the deal is


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Originally Posted by Bo185
They are for the auto trac transfercase and front diff actuators.


Basically the 4l switch tells the trans its had lower gear ratios. So it shift right.


It should show up in HP tuners. But you will still need the switch for the trans to shift right in 4 low.


Thanks. Sounds like I can remove the wiring for the auto trac and front diff actuators....


Any suggestions on someone that can leave it tuned as 4wd with the intention of using a toggle for 4Lo?



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