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Old 07-21-2011, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Car revs to about 5500rpm then drops out, comes back, goes to 5500 and repeats. Feels like letting off the throttle but TPS is 100% the whole time. No KR or any wierd signals from what I was logging. Any ideas?
Possibly Valve Float..how far down does it dip when it lets off..
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Are you revving it that high in neutral or is that under load?
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It is a factory crate GM ls6 motor so I doubt it is valve float. In nuetral is will rev to 6800 which is the limiter. Drive if you floor it it goes to about 5500rpm then feels like he let off until it coast to 3k then goes back to 5500 again.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
It is a factory crate GM ls6 motor so I doubt it is valve float. In nuetral is will rev to 6800 which is the limiter. Drive if you floor it it goes to about 5500rpm then feels like he let off until it coast to 3k then goes back to 5500 again.
Sounds like your fuel system isn't keeping up with the engine. Scan O2 sensor voltages on bank 1 sensor 1 and bank 2 sensor 1, and see if they drop off at WOT as revs increase.

And whip out your fuel pressure gauge and get a reading while driving it. TPIS sells one with an extra-long feed line, so you can tape it to the outside of the windshield in viewing position while testing.

edit to add: also scan your MAP KPa value, if starts decreasing in value as the RPMs climb you have a restriction in your induction tract.

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Maybe the fuel filter is getting clogged
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That's a good one..check Fuel Pressure..
Old 07-21-2011, 10:54 PM
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If the car is new, with a new engine, I would venture to say the filter is probably new too. However the fuel pressure is a good thing to check.

How is the car tuned? Is it running a stock PCM tuned by HP tuners or something similar?

There could be any number of things that could cause the problem. Let us know when he figures it out.
Old 07-22-2011, 02:45 AM
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I've got EFI Live & can't open. Otherwise, would have a look.

Is this a "tuning thread?" Must have miss-read the title, lol.
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It is a help me get it running good thread.

Fuel filter is new. Has good sized braided line all the way from the tank. Will check fuel pressure when I get a chance. We have a gauge long enough to do it. Doesn't feel like fuel pressure though. No missing, no knock, just shuts downs.
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Really wish I could see the tune. Could be a lot of things. Check the ECT, MAP & RPM related timing tables, as well. Do you have a log of what is happening that can be printed & posted here. That would be helpful for us.
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ECTs hover right ~180. All of those timing tables are factory ls6. I'll try to grab some logs but honestly they don't show anything wierd.

I thought EFI live could read HPT files?
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Thought EFI live could read HPT files?

No, just tried & it sees unkown. Maybe, there's a newer version of EFI Live that you're referring to. Although, I've never heard of EFI Live having the ability to open HP Tuner files.

The issue is something simple. We just gotta find where it is in the tune.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
It is a help me get it running good thread.

Fuel filter is new. Has good sized braided line all the way from the tank. Will check fuel pressure when I get a chance. We have a gauge long enough to do it. Doesn't feel like fuel pressure though. No missing, no knock, just shuts downs.
Scanning the O2 sensor voltages and MAP sensor pressure will also be useful as I mentioned earlier...look for O2 sensor volts to drop below 450mV and/or the MAP to start decreasing from ~100KPa as the revs climb.
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What fuel pump and tank does it have on it? could it be running out of fuel?

Edit- did nut read all the post to see that some have been saying could be fuel system related. If he fuel tank is not dumped or baffled depending on fuel level it could be sucking air and then cut out gas goes to pickup and can rev again only to do the same thing again.
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Love seeing these cars with LS power.
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Unreal,

If not yet resolved, post it one section below in the "tuning section." You'll find a bunch of guys who can read the tune file & comment accordingly. You may get in a day information that could take a month, in this section 'cuz the tuning oriented people don't know about the problem unless they just happen to enter this thread.
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Originally Posted by STEEPSS
nothing like a "HI, I have more money than you" thread.

lol

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lol. i thought the same. lol

Originally Posted by psiconversion
What is rev limiter set to?

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Originally Posted by Larry @ AMS
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how does the MAF read when the issues occurs? that 90 in front of the MAF could be causing some issue's
both very good questions.
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I was out of town for the weekend. Fuel pump is a walbro 255HP. Should support the power level just fine. I'll try to get some more data this week. Like I said, it is my friends car so I have to do it when he is available. He has a fuel pressure gauge but there is no where easy to tap it since the stock fuel rails don't have a port.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
He has a fuel pressure gauge but there is no where easy to tap it since the stock fuel rails don't have a port.
The factory fuel rail has a standard schraeder port on the front of the driver-side log, facing toward the front of the car, with a black screw-on cap covering it.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Here is one when it was still being put together.
Little black cap there on the drivers side front..


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