LS1 going into a 99 Dakota R/T
08-30-2013, 01:24 PM
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Slightly old thread but i had to comment since i have a dakota r/t and an ls1 car. With the amount of time and $ spent on this setup, although its cool and rare, its similar to a hemi swap. He could have gotten more power out of the 5.9 for less $. In factory form the 5.9 motor is definitely asleep at the wheel but every mod even boltons make a huge difference. Getting that 250hp to 400 isnt all that hard with a motor that size.
1) Can you show me your super-bad MAGNUM MOTOR?
2) I'll sell you all three of the ones I have, interested?
3) Are you able to write me a recipe for a 450 crank HP magnum motor that I can build, street-drive, and get 18 mpg?
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08-31-2013, 11:40 AM
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I guess ******* motorsports sums you up. Is there anywhere you Dodge MAGNUM MOTOR loving jerks don't go? This is an LS engine forum, in the hybrid section. Three question for you:
1) Can you show me your super-bad MAGNUM MOTOR?
2) I'll sell you all three of the ones I have, interested?
3) Are you able to write me a recipe for a 450 crank HP magnum motor that I can build, street-drive, and get 18 mpg?
1) Can you show me your super-bad MAGNUM MOTOR?
2) I'll sell you all three of the ones I have, interested?
3) Are you able to write me a recipe for a 450 crank HP magnum motor that I can build, street-drive, and get 18 mpg?
Thanks man. My friend is finishing up a few things on LS1 R/T and then it should be good for some shakedown passes this fall with the new tires, suspension, rollbar, etc etc
He mentioned to me the other day that it weighs 350lb less now. and that's with the rollbar in it 
At this point, we're still bolt ons + Nitrous. His plans for next year will consist of a 5.3 and boost 
08-31-2013, 09:19 PM
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I strongly disagree. The heads/cam packages he was looking at were 3 grand and the guys with mopar 408's were only running low 12s 
His LS1 swapped R/T has gone 11's with Bolt Ons in less than satisfactory conditions (bald slicks and lack of traction among them) We Plan on seeing 11.60's this fall as a bolt on truck and then hitting it with a 150 shot after. Alot of the guys on the RT forums are mad at him because he's running faster than their mopars with heads/cam or 62more cubes of displacement. Not to mention having great street manners, as it's a stock longblock LS1
His LS1 swapped R/T has gone 11's with Bolt Ons in less than satisfactory conditions (bald slicks and lack of traction among them) We Plan on seeing 11.60's this fall as a bolt on truck and then hitting it with a 150 shot after. Alot of the guys on the RT forums are mad at him because he's running faster than their mopars with heads/cam or 62more cubes of displacement. Not to mention having great street manners, as it's a stock longblock LS1however, there are guys besides just me that run mid 12s and never touched the stock 360 long block.
was there any weight reduction done to get to the 11s?
08-31-2013, 09:35 PM
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I guess ******* motorsports sums you up. Is there anywhere you Dodge MAGNUM MOTOR loving jerks don't go? This is an LS engine forum, in the hybrid section. Three question for you:
1) Can you show me your super-bad MAGNUM MOTOR?
2) I'll sell you all three of the ones I have, interested?
3) Are you able to write me a recipe for a 450 crank HP magnum motor that I can build, street-drive, and get 18 mpg?
1) Can you show me your super-bad MAGNUM MOTOR?
2) I'll sell you all three of the ones I have, interested?
3) Are you able to write me a recipe for a 450 crank HP magnum motor that I can build, street-drive, and get 18 mpg?
I dont know if id consider it "superbad" id call it a fairly mild build but my 5.9 is putting around 350hp and ft-lbs to the rear wheels and I run mid 12's in the quarter as of now. i didnt do any weight reduction besides the missing spare tire and the a/c which was broken anyway. thats on the heavy stock chrome rims going through a heavy 9¼" rear, a heavy steel driveshaft, and a heavy 46re transmission(all much heavier than what comes on ls1 cars). the cam isnt even all that crazy its a 224/230 536/544 110lsa. edelbrock aluminum heads and boltons. its very streetable very consistent. At the crank its gotta be around 430ish or so. 18mpg average isnt easy on a dodge engine. i get that on the highway.
all im saying is i like to keep a stock appearance but i can go out tomorrow and get some light wheels, do some weight reduction, and run 11s with my stock long block magnum. theres a lot of bad info out there on building magnums like what parts actually work and all but they have more potential than people give them credit for. First time ever to the track with just an air intake i ran a 14.9 quarter mile so to cut almost 2½ seconds off that is pretty amazing for not touching the bottom end or doing weight reduction.
09-01-2013, 06:57 AM
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theres no need for nastyness. im not a magnum motor loving jerk lol i love the ls1 motors. i have one but to answer your questions:
I dont know if id consider it "superbad" id call it a fairly mild build but my 5.9 is putting around 350hp and ft-lbs to the rear wheels and I run mid 12's in the quarter as of now. i didnt do any weight reduction besides the missing spare tire and the a/c which was broken anyway. thats on the heavy stock chrome rims going through a heavy 9¼" rear, a heavy steel driveshaft, and a heavy 46re transmission(all much heavier than what comes on ls1 cars). the cam isnt even all that crazy its a 224/230 536/544 110lsa. edelbrock aluminum heads and boltons. its very streetable very consistent. At the crank its gotta be around 430ish or so. 18mpg average isnt easy on a dodge engine. i get that on the highway.
all im saying is i like to keep a stock appearance but i can go out tomorrow and get some light wheels, do some weight reduction, and run 11s with my stock long block magnum. theres a lot of bad info out there on building magnums like what parts actually work and all but they have more potential than people give them credit for. First time ever to the track with just an air intake i ran a 14.9 quarter mile so to cut almost 2½ seconds off that is pretty amazing for not touching the bottom end or doing weight reduction.
I dont know if id consider it "superbad" id call it a fairly mild build but my 5.9 is putting around 350hp and ft-lbs to the rear wheels and I run mid 12's in the quarter as of now. i didnt do any weight reduction besides the missing spare tire and the a/c which was broken anyway. thats on the heavy stock chrome rims going through a heavy 9¼" rear, a heavy steel driveshaft, and a heavy 46re transmission(all much heavier than what comes on ls1 cars). the cam isnt even all that crazy its a 224/230 536/544 110lsa. edelbrock aluminum heads and boltons. its very streetable very consistent. At the crank its gotta be around 430ish or so. 18mpg average isnt easy on a dodge engine. i get that on the highway.
all im saying is i like to keep a stock appearance but i can go out tomorrow and get some light wheels, do some weight reduction, and run 11s with my stock long block magnum. theres a lot of bad info out there on building magnums like what parts actually work and all but they have more potential than people give them credit for. First time ever to the track with just an air intake i ran a 14.9 quarter mile so to cut almost 2½ seconds off that is pretty amazing for not touching the bottom end or doing weight reduction.
My point is this. This is an LS engine website, in a hybrid/conversion thread. Something about Dodge guys, and Dakota guys in particular, is that you have to always try to prove yourself. Nobody here cares how much you love your MAGNUM MOTOR. Or how you think....ya man...my motor is good. It is..Really.
Really. What you did was child stuff, and both Don and I have been there and done that. His thread, and my threads are about what's different, and why.
Please take your Dodge stuff back to Dodge land where they jabber endlessly about their little M1 intake and Eddie heads.
09-02-2013, 09:35 AM
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you're right that there are guys with 408's running 12's. i know some of them. a lot of them are dealing with other issues such as the crappy transmissions, poor tuning, too mild of a cam, and yes some are in the 12s for other reasons.
however, there are guys besides just me that run mid 12s and never touched the stock 360 long block.
was there any weight reduction done to get to the 11s?
however, there are guys besides just me that run mid 12s and never touched the stock 360 long block.
was there any weight reduction done to get to the 11s?
Maybe there was a slight headwind slowing them down..
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09-02-2013, 03:20 PM
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im not TRYING to prove anything, i already did. i never was intending to insult anyone but just saying u dont necessarily need a gm motor to get to 450hp.
you also think i have some love affair with only dodge motors. u forget that i am on this site because i have a t/a with the ls1 engine it came with which i love. however, if someone on this site wants to talk about dodges, i have more than enough knowledge about them to put my 2 cents in. u obviously didnt have the skills/knowledge/patience necessary to make a 5.9 liter engine strong so u go and bash all dodge 360 engines?
i wasnt gonna respond this way but since you are acting like a little b__ch, ill tell u right now, if the 360 in my dakota was putting its power through a 4l60e and a 10 bolt, the power to the wheels would be within 20hp of any typical heads cam ls1 and my cam specs are fairly mild. 20hp isnt enough to justify throwing a gm engine in a dodge with all the fab work. now if it was an ls7 or maybe an ls3 id see the point. if u were doing it for uniqueness, then cool but if you were doing it for power than what you went through seems pretty not smart but hey thats your $ and your problem.
you also think i have some love affair with only dodge motors. u forget that i am on this site because i have a t/a with the ls1 engine it came with which i love. however, if someone on this site wants to talk about dodges, i have more than enough knowledge about them to put my 2 cents in. u obviously didnt have the skills/knowledge/patience necessary to make a 5.9 liter engine strong so u go and bash all dodge 360 engines?
i wasnt gonna respond this way but since you are acting like a little b__ch, ill tell u right now, if the 360 in my dakota was putting its power through a 4l60e and a 10 bolt, the power to the wheels would be within 20hp of any typical heads cam ls1 and my cam specs are fairly mild. 20hp isnt enough to justify throwing a gm engine in a dodge with all the fab work. now if it was an ls7 or maybe an ls3 id see the point. if u were doing it for uniqueness, then cool but if you were doing it for power than what you went through seems pretty not smart but hey thats your $ and your problem.
09-03-2013, 05:44 AM
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And in that lies the choices. The LS platform is a heavily-supported platform with more combinations than anything else out there. For mine, I went with the LY6, 6l90. Good gas mileage, 370 hp out of the box, and the L92 heads which offer huge potential when cammed up. LS tuning is easy, and parts are readily available.
Someone might just choose a 5.3 with a chinese turbo. There are many examples of those on this site making 600+ RWHP.
Why keep yourself in a box?
Someone might just choose a 5.3 with a chinese turbo. There are many examples of those on this site making 600+ RWHP.
Why keep yourself in a box?
09-03-2013, 03:11 PM
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And in that lies the choices. The LS platform is a heavily-supported platform with more combinations than anything else out there. For mine, I went with the LY6, 6l90. Good gas mileage, 370 hp out of the box, and the L92 heads which offer huge potential when cammed up. LS tuning is easy, and parts are readily available.
Someone might just choose a 5.3 with a chinese turbo. There are many examples of those on this site making 600+ RWHP.
Why keep yourself in a box?
Someone might just choose a 5.3 with a chinese turbo. There are many examples of those on this site making 600+ RWHP.
Why keep yourself in a box?
09-29-2013, 05:48 PM
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Hey guys, I figured I'd give you all an update, as it's been a while. We ran the truck on black Friday 2013 and went 11.33 @ 115.8 mph on a 1.52 60' with bolt ons and a 2985lb RW. Our plans for 2014 include getting that 10 second timeslip with the Polluter cam and PRC Stage 2.5 5.3L CNC Ported Heads. Then, a 200 shot to see if we can get into the 9's. We will be using a TH400 trans and a higher stall speed converter. Also, we plan on building another set of custom headers with bigger primaries to compliment the new heads/cam setup. The old primaries were 1-5/8" and this year will bring 1-7/8" to 2" primaries.
As for the 360 that was in his dodge prior to the LS1 swap, my high 14 sec Saturn won 2 out of 3 races against him. The only time he beat me was from a dig. That tells me right there that his trap speed was no greater than 91-92mph. After the LS1 swap, we ran 12.91 @106mph on a 1.92 60' with a few minor bolt ons, the same 4.56 gears that he had when the 360 was in it and a stock LS1 converter. Raceweight was 3680 lbs if I recall correctly. Might have been more.
Black Friday 2013 Video-
As for the 360 that was in his dodge prior to the LS1 swap, my high 14 sec Saturn won 2 out of 3 races against him. The only time he beat me was from a dig. That tells me right there that his trap speed was no greater than 91-92mph. After the LS1 swap, we ran 12.91 @106mph on a 1.92 60' with a few minor bolt ons, the same 4.56 gears that he had when the 360 was in it and a stock LS1 converter. Raceweight was 3680 lbs if I recall correctly. Might have been more.
Black Friday 2013 Video-
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02-25-2014, 05:23 AM
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Nice run.
I finally took my truck to the track, and ran 13.43 at 101 with bone stock 6.0 L and 6L90, full street weight.
Vehicle: 1999 Dakota club cab
Engine: LY6 with variable valve timing from 2007 GMC Sierra, 130k miles, some bearing wear.
Transmission: 6L90
Tuner: Diablosport
Chassis mods: none
Tires: Federal 255/55-17 @ 30 psi all the way around
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: 4200?
Temperature: about 78 degrees, sunny with light wind down the track
I finally took my truck to the track, and ran 13.43 at 101 with bone stock 6.0 L and 6L90, full street weight.
Vehicle: 1999 Dakota club cab
Engine: LY6 with variable valve timing from 2007 GMC Sierra, 130k miles, some bearing wear.
Transmission: 6L90
Tuner: Diablosport
Chassis mods: none
Tires: Federal 255/55-17 @ 30 psi all the way around
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: 4200?
Temperature: about 78 degrees, sunny with light wind down the track
03-01-2014, 05:31 PM
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Nice run.
I finally took my truck to the track, and ran 13.43 at 101 with bone stock 6.0 L and 6L90, full street weight.
Vehicle: 1999 Dakota club cab
Engine: LY6 with variable valve timing from 2007 GMC Sierra, 130k miles, some bearing wear.
Transmission: 6L90
Tuner: Diablosport
Chassis mods: none
Tires: Federal 255/55-17 @ 30 psi all the way around
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: 4200?
Temperature: about 78 degrees, sunny with light wind down the track
I finally took my truck to the track, and ran 13.43 at 101 with bone stock 6.0 L and 6L90, full street weight.
Vehicle: 1999 Dakota club cab
Engine: LY6 with variable valve timing from 2007 GMC Sierra, 130k miles, some bearing wear.
Transmission: 6L90
Tuner: Diablosport
Chassis mods: none
Tires: Federal 255/55-17 @ 30 psi all the way around
Fuel: 93 octane
Weight: 4200?
Temperature: about 78 degrees, sunny with light wind down the track
03-01-2014, 09:32 PM
#78
I may attend a tuning school this year to learn tuning, or take an online course.
Sometimes life and work get in the way though.
06-27-2015, 12:56 PM
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I haven't heard anything from the guy that started this thread. He was going to make the truck a complete race truck, with tube frame, plexi windows, etc.
As for mine. I had it tuned, and found it probably runs about 13.0-13.1 on street tires, but didn't take it back to the track. This is based on increased MPH on a street I drive it on, from point to point.
I drive mine every day. It now has over 30k miles on the drivetrain, and I would never consider another magnum motor.
I just finished swapping a car intake, and new cam this week.
Feel free to check out lsdak.com, for a forum about these trucks.
As for mine. I had it tuned, and found it probably runs about 13.0-13.1 on street tires, but didn't take it back to the track. This is based on increased MPH on a street I drive it on, from point to point.
I drive mine every day. It now has over 30k miles on the drivetrain, and I would never consider another magnum motor.
I just finished swapping a car intake, and new cam this week.
Feel free to check out lsdak.com, for a forum about these trucks.