LM7/Range Rover
04-22-2014, 07:02 PM
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If I had to GUESS, I would say about the same as the GEMS right now, although the motor is still breaking in.
Say maybe 18-20 on a run, @15-17 around town. Mind, it is also a little difficult to keep my foot out of it too, so take that into consideration......
Martin
Say maybe 18-20 on a run, @15-17 around town. Mind, it is also a little difficult to keep my foot out of it too, so take that into consideration......
Martin
04-22-2014, 10:11 PM
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If I had to GUESS, I would say about the same as the GEMS right now, although the motor is still breaking in.
Say maybe 18-20 on a run, @15-17 around town. Mind, it is also a little difficult to keep my foot out of it too, so take that into consideration......
Martin
Say maybe 18-20 on a run, @15-17 around town. Mind, it is also a little difficult to keep my foot out of it too, so take that into consideration......
Martin
10-03-2014, 03:41 PM
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The LM7 had a melt down, so now this is between the rails....
Low mileage LQ4 we think, although a possibility exists for it being an LQ9, either way it will work.
Martin
Low mileage LQ4 we think, although a possibility exists for it being an LQ9, either way it will work.
Martin
10-11-2014, 07:31 PM
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Healthy 6.0, LS6 intake and injectors etc, and an ECM tune....did this to the adapter shaft I made.
Currently it is in WV getting priced for a custom one piece shaft that will also be hardened.
Oh well, it went right in front of my house after some "spirited" test driving, so it saved me having to grab the trailer!
Tranny would not shift out of first unless the revs were pretty high, but had no VSS hooked up neither, so hopefully that was that.
Martin
Currently it is in WV getting priced for a custom one piece shaft that will also be hardened.
Oh well, it went right in front of my house after some "spirited" test driving, so it saved me having to grab the trailer!
Tranny would not shift out of first unless the revs were pretty high, but had no VSS hooked up neither, so hopefully that was that.
Martin
12-03-2014, 05:04 PM
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Got a new adapter shaft to test, and it is perfect.
Sent it back for hardening to Rockwell 60.
I had a bunch of five made, if anyone is into the swap. This is by far the hardest part to make, as it has to be a custom shaft due to the Rovers offset rear differential, thus needing the Rover transfer case.
Martin
Sent it back for hardening to Rockwell 60.
I had a bunch of five made, if anyone is into the swap. This is by far the hardest part to make, as it has to be a custom shaft due to the Rovers offset rear differential, thus needing the Rover transfer case.
Martin
01-05-2015, 12:49 PM
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Updating the thread some...
Got a VSS signal for the 4L60E from the Rover transfer case VSS. Its the same waveform etc, just lower reading. The engine see's @25mph when the vehicle is actually going @33mph. Will get the ecm programmed for the lower PPM's. Shifts high in the rpm range when flooring it, otherwise it works fine.
Radiator cap kept blowing coolant out. Figured out it had a 16psi cap on the FSR radiator, and the Rover's header tank has a 20psi cap on it. Swapped on a 28-30psi Stant and it is leak free. Runs at 198 degrees in this weather with the radiator and Taurus fan hooked up to its own controller.
Redid the motor mounts to ploy bushed ones, as the Rover ones aren't up to the weight or the torque of the 6.0 motor.
Now onto figuring out the XYZ switch to get the transfer case shifting into low range and illuminate the shifter lights correctly.
It drives GREAT though! A massive improvement over the built 4.6 it had before, as well as others I have built for folks in Land Rovers and Range Rovers.
The guy that made the adapter shaft did an excellent job after some test fitting before hardening, some back and forth with UPS and so on. I can get them made for just under $400 if I get a could of orders.
I also have the adapter plates getting put into a CNC file for CNC plasma cutting. Waiting on a price on those.
Didn't know if anyone else is interested in this swap or not?
Martin
Got a VSS signal for the 4L60E from the Rover transfer case VSS. Its the same waveform etc, just lower reading. The engine see's @25mph when the vehicle is actually going @33mph. Will get the ecm programmed for the lower PPM's. Shifts high in the rpm range when flooring it, otherwise it works fine.
Radiator cap kept blowing coolant out. Figured out it had a 16psi cap on the FSR radiator, and the Rover's header tank has a 20psi cap on it. Swapped on a 28-30psi Stant and it is leak free. Runs at 198 degrees in this weather with the radiator and Taurus fan hooked up to its own controller.
Redid the motor mounts to ploy bushed ones, as the Rover ones aren't up to the weight or the torque of the 6.0 motor.
Now onto figuring out the XYZ switch to get the transfer case shifting into low range and illuminate the shifter lights correctly.
It drives GREAT though! A massive improvement over the built 4.6 it had before, as well as others I have built for folks in Land Rovers and Range Rovers.
The guy that made the adapter shaft did an excellent job after some test fitting before hardening, some back and forth with UPS and so on. I can get them made for just under $400 if I get a could of orders.
I also have the adapter plates getting put into a CNC file for CNC plasma cutting. Waiting on a price on those.
Didn't know if anyone else is interested in this swap or not?
Martin
01-25-2015, 05:32 PM
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Nice work, I was thinking a way around the custom adaptor and shaft might be to use a Landcruiser 80 transfer case as it is offset front and rear (not sure if distance is ok tho) but they make a nice adaptor for all GM automatics .
01-26-2015, 07:55 PM
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IIRC, wrong side.
The adapter shafts are under $400 shipped though, so not a deal breaker in my book. How much are the adapter kits from a GM trans to a Yota trans case?
Martin
The adapter shafts are under $400 shipped though, so not a deal breaker in my book. How much are the adapter kits from a GM trans to a Yota trans case?
Martin
12-02-2015, 08:18 AM
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LeftLane,
Can you provide an update? How has the swap worked out? I'm interested in more detail as to your approach to the swap - it seems that "full integration" of the LSx electronics into working with all the Range Rover's multiple PCMs, SLABS, BCUs, etc would be a nightmare - I assume you are running the LSx PCM in parallel to the RR ECM? This is kind of an important point for most people who may want to attempt ANY swap into a modern Land Rover as most won't work.
So, what works and what doesn't? A/C? Hill Descent Control? ABS? Thanks!
-Cabel
Can you provide an update? How has the swap worked out? I'm interested in more detail as to your approach to the swap - it seems that "full integration" of the LSx electronics into working with all the Range Rover's multiple PCMs, SLABS, BCUs, etc would be a nightmare - I assume you are running the LSx PCM in parallel to the RR ECM? This is kind of an important point for most people who may want to attempt ANY swap into a modern Land Rover as most won't work.
So, what works and what doesn't? A/C? Hill Descent Control? ABS? Thanks!
-Cabel
12-03-2015, 06:58 PM
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Both sets of wiring are there, thus why everything works.
The ONLY thing that is not hooked up is the cruise control. This is because of where the LSx throttle body is vs the P38 throttle body. Yeah I could do it easy enough, but have not been bothered to be honest. ABS, TC, HVAC, etc, all work as before. Factory tach and speedo work as before too.
I think I just cooked the LQ4 though. Put on a PRW high flow water pump, and apparently the pulley was not screwed on too tight! Yep, belt snapped, water pump stopped pumping, and I tried to limp it home. My how engines smell funny at times.....lol
No biggie as it was a junk yard motor that I have never opened up, so looks like it's coming out unless by some miracle its still happy.
Martin
The ONLY thing that is not hooked up is the cruise control. This is because of where the LSx throttle body is vs the P38 throttle body. Yeah I could do it easy enough, but have not been bothered to be honest. ABS, TC, HVAC, etc, all work as before. Factory tach and speedo work as before too.
I think I just cooked the LQ4 though. Put on a PRW high flow water pump, and apparently the pulley was not screwed on too tight! Yep, belt snapped, water pump stopped pumping, and I tried to limp it home. My how engines smell funny at times.....lol
No biggie as it was a junk yard motor that I have never opened up, so looks like it's coming out unless by some miracle its still happy.
Martin
12-03-2015, 10:59 PM
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Sweet! That's the approach I intend to use. Too bad about the LQ4 but their seem to be plenty around. I'm looking at the LR4 4.8L as I don't think that one will ever overpower the ZF4HP22 transmission. Thanks for the reply.
12-18-2015, 12:33 PM
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Well, if you want warranty out of PRW, think again. I repaired the pulley and drilled/tapped 4 new holes. New bolts and red threadlocker, it's done.
New motor seems very good. Only broke in the camshaft but it fired right up after priming the oil and fuel systems with some cranking with no plugs.
For the money, $3064 to my door and no core, I couldn't beat the HP97 ATK motor. I was very impressed with it when it got here, and all the included name brand gaskets, oil pump, etc.
As it sits now...
My youngest liked the painted intakes, so it got painted. His opinion is more valuable than anyone elses
Will update with some driving time.
After extending the wiring harness to run behind the motor, switching motors, and so on, all I had was a vacuum leak due to a bad elbow on a hose!
Martin
New motor seems very good. Only broke in the camshaft but it fired right up after priming the oil and fuel systems with some cranking with no plugs.
For the money, $3064 to my door and no core, I couldn't beat the HP97 ATK motor. I was very impressed with it when it got here, and all the included name brand gaskets, oil pump, etc.
As it sits now...
My youngest liked the painted intakes, so it got painted. His opinion is more valuable than anyone elses
Will update with some driving time.
After extending the wiring harness to run behind the motor, switching motors, and so on, all I had was a vacuum leak due to a bad elbow on a hose!
Martin
12-21-2015, 08:21 AM
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Well, if you want warranty out of PRW, think again. I repaired the pulley and drilled/tapped 4 new holes. New bolts and red threadlocker, it's done.
New motor seems very good. Only broke in the camshaft but it fired right up after priming the oil and fuel systems with some cranking with no plugs.
For the money, $3064 to my door and no core, I couldn't beat the HP97 ATK motor. I was very impressed with it when it got here, and all the included name brand gaskets, oil pump, etc.
As it sits now...
Attachment 521793
My youngest liked the painted intakes, so it got painted. His opinion is more valuable than anyone elses
Will update with some driving time.
After extending the wiring harness to run behind the motor, switching motors, and so on, all I had was a vacuum leak due to a bad elbow on a hose!
Martin
New motor seems very good. Only broke in the camshaft but it fired right up after priming the oil and fuel systems with some cranking with no plugs.
For the money, $3064 to my door and no core, I couldn't beat the HP97 ATK motor. I was very impressed with it when it got here, and all the included name brand gaskets, oil pump, etc.
As it sits now...
Attachment 521793
My youngest liked the painted intakes, so it got painted. His opinion is more valuable than anyone elses
Will update with some driving time.
After extending the wiring harness to run behind the motor, switching motors, and so on, all I had was a vacuum leak due to a bad elbow on a hose!
Martin
Thank you for letting us be apart of your build.
Brandon
12-21-2015, 05:14 PM
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Thank you again Brandon.
So far its going great, just have to get the ecm set up for the new injectors etc.
It says in the install guide to check valve clearances etc after a couple hundred miles. Is that required on this particular engine?
Martin
So far its going great, just have to get the ecm set up for the new injectors etc.
It says in the install guide to check valve clearances etc after a couple hundred miles. Is that required on this particular engine?
Martin
12-22-2015, 12:22 PM
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