Denso or Sanden?
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Denso or Sanden? I have a factory Denso 10s17f compressor mounted on an LS2 that I would like to use with a Classic Air brand AC system. I asked Classic Air if this compressor would work and they said yes, but the Sanden would work better. He didn't say why or how much better. It's not the variable dispalcement design so I know this wouldn't be an issue.
Has anybody used the Denso with an aftermarket AC on their conversion?
Has anybody used the Denso with an aftermarket AC on their conversion?
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Yeah, I'm finding that out. I thought I had it figured out until I discovered today that the fitting adapters that Doc Blocks used to sell aren't made anymore by the new company.
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I'm in the same boat, I plan to use the stock compressor and mount with Classic Auto Air system. The Guys at Classic Auto Air said they could cut/crimp old lines if I had them, I do not. I will either buy the fittings from Nostalgic Air Parts (part number GM1605) or visit local pick and pull yard.
http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air...10s20f-593.php
http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air...10s20f-593.php
The answer to your question on why the Sanden will work better is most likely a displacement issue. I don't know about Classic Air, but the way it was explained to me by Vintage Air is they design the systems around the capacities os the Sanden. A/C systems work best when everything works together. Sure your system may work with another compressor, but probably wont be as efficient, thus wont work as well. It's the same thing as putting a really big cam in a stock engine, it may run, but it will be better with the rest of the upgrades.
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I'm in the same boat, I plan to use the stock compressor and mount with Classic Auto Air system. The Guys at Classic Auto Air said they could cut/crimp old lines if I had them, I do not. I will either buy the fittings from Nostalgic Air Parts (part number GM1605) or visit local pick and pull yard.
http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air...10s20f-593.php
http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air...10s20f-593.php
The answer to your question on why the Sanden will work better is most likely a displacement issue. I don't know about Classic Air, but the way it was explained to me by Vintage Air is they design the systems around the capacities os the Sanden. A/C systems work best when everything works together. Sure your system may work with another compressor, but probably wont be as efficient, thus wont work as well. It's the same thing as putting a really big cam in a stock engine, it may run, but it will be better with the rest of the upgrades.
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Verdad Gallardo I thought of that too but this compressor came off of a full size, extended cab pickup. Based on the cabin volume of this truck and any other car or truck cabins this compressor was used on, I'm figure that this system was at least as big as a Vintage or Classic Air system. (Unless a compressor can be too big...)
There is a company that sells on eBay that now has the adapters that Doc's used to sell.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-LS1-Style...bf93f8&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-LS1-Style...bf93f8&vxp=mtr
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There is a company that sells on eBay that now has the adapters that Doc's used to sell.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-LS1-Style...bf93f8&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-LS1-Style...bf93f8&vxp=mtr
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I emailed them too and they didn't have the fittings I needed either. My adapters are separate for each port. I wanted the ones that have the lines that come directly out the side of the blocks or anything similar.
Well that's odd. When I contacted them they made me a set for the compressor on my Ecotec engine. They said they could do whatever I needed. I guess things have changed since then.
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Maybe she just didn't read my whole question. She didn't offer any alternatives:
"Would you have the old "Docs Blocks" AA2209 and AA2210 adapters for a 10s17F compressor? I need something that turns a very tight 90 degree towards the front of the compressor."
"Unfortunately we do not carry those blocks.
Thank you,
Trish
Air Parts Inc"
Not very helpful...
"Would you have the old "Docs Blocks" AA2209 and AA2210 adapters for a 10s17F compressor? I need something that turns a very tight 90 degree towards the front of the compressor."
"Unfortunately we do not carry those blocks.
Thank you,
Trish
Air Parts Inc"
Not very helpful...
ac variable displacement compressor 