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Old 02-25-2015, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 99 Blue Bird
So 72 and newer clamshells work with the plates? So will the mounts from a 4th gen fbody work or is there a specific year range?
The engine brackets will only work with the stock standard performance clamshell mounts installed as factory equipment on the 72-81 F-body cars, which is represented in the aftermarket as the popular 2292 mounts. They are also fully compatible with the aftermarket poly mount inserts from Energy Suspension. The 4th-gen F-body mounts are distinctly different and not compatible with the Hooker engine brackets.
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Originally Posted by Toddoky
The engine brackets will only work with the stock standard performance clamshell mounts installed as factory equipment on the 72-81 F-body cars, which is represented in the aftermarket as the popular 2292 mounts. They are also fully compatible with the aftermarket poly mount inserts from Energy Suspension. The 4th-gen F-body mounts are distinctly different and not compatible with the Hooker engine brackets.
Thanks. I appreciate you clarifying that for me.
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[QUOTE=Toddoky;18680672]I don't foresee the pan giving you any issues. As you can see by the attached photo of the Hooker components and the 302-2 pan on a 3rd-gen Nova (same subframe as a 1st-gen F-body) there is a ton of room between the pan sump and the subframe.
[/QUOTEWhat Headers Should I Use Or What Part Number Are Those I Don't Want Chrome
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I don't foresee the pan giving you any issues. As you can see by the attached photo of the Hooker components and the 302-2 pan on a 3rd-gen Nova (same subframe as a 1st-gen F-body) there is a ton of room between the pan sump and the subframe.
[/QUOTEWhat Headers Should I Use Or What Part Number Are Those I Don't Want Chrome
What size primary tubes do you want? Do you want painted steel, silver ceramic steel, black ceramic steel or stainless steel headers?
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What size primary tubes do you want? Do you want painted steel, silver ceramic steel, black ceramic steel or stainless steel headers?
Black Ceramic Not Sure On Primary What Would You Suggest?
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Black Ceramic Not Sure On Primary What Would You Suggest?
Sorry I Want Them Black .No Ceramic
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Sorry I Want Them Black .No Ceramic
Black but not ceramic would be painted mild steel headers. The part number for the 1-3/4" headers would be 2275HKR and the 1-7/8" would be 2276HKR. Use the 17/8" on anything other than a stock 4.8/5.3L or stock LS1 build.
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Black but not ceramic would be painted mild steel headers. The part number for the 1-3/4" headers would be 2275HKR and the 1-7/8" would be 2276HKR. Use the 17/8" on anything other than a stock 4.8/5.3L or stock LS1 build.
I Have A Stock 5.3Use The 1-7/8 ? Well Not That Stock Ls6 Intake And After Market Cam Stock Hearts
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[QUOTE=Gino1381;18709724]Heads
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I Have A Stock 5.3Use The 1-7/8 ? Well Not That Stock Ls6 Intake And After Market Cam Stock Hearts
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Yes, I would use the 1-7/8"
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Yes, I would use the 1-7/8"
Can You Post A Picture Of The 12618Hkr Hooker Mounts. I Bought The Headers And The Oil Pan ..Just Having Issues On The mounts
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Originally Posted by Toddoky
Speaking strictly in terms of clearance with your steering rack the Holley 302-1 would get the nod, but it's not a good choice overall for 1st-gen F-body swaps due to interferences issues with the engine crossmember. Some guys have used it by placing shims under their frame stands, but I don't recommend that practice as it has a negative effect on your U-joint working angles and transmission clearance with the tunnel sheet metal. The only way to be able to use the 302-1 pan in an optimized manner is to notch the engine crossmember to accommodate it. The Holley 302-2 pan along with the new Hooker system of LS swap parts for 1st-gens addresses all these issues and provides a lower installed engine/transmission height in your car than you can obtain with any brand of swap plates used in conjunction with the stock frame stands.


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I like the blacked-out look of your engine...are there any fitment issues between your steering components and the Hooker components you used?
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[QUOTE=Toddoky;19058434]I like the blacked-out look of your engine...are there any fitment issues between your steering components and the Hooker components you used?[/QUOTA
Thank You Todd Im Digging The All Black Look 2. Now I Need To Keep Up With Maintenance Lol The Rack And Pinion Hit The Motor Mounts And Headers..I Bought The 302-2 Oil Pan aNd The Transmission Cross Members..I Bought Everything You Ask Me To Buy..Im Stuck And Out Of Money lol Lol
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Originally Posted by Gino1381
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I like the blacked-out look of your engine...are there any fitment issues between your steering components and the Hooker components you used?[/QUOTA
Thank You Todd Im Digging The All Black Look 2. Now I Need To Keep Up With Maintenance Lol The Rack And Pinion Hit The Motor Mounts And Headers..I Bought The 302-2 Oil Pan aNd The Transmission Cross Members..I Bought Everything You Ask Me To Buy..Im Stuck And Out Of Money lol Lol
That was certainly known to be a possible outcome with the overall combination of parts you have. The header modification shouldn't be that difficult for someone with fabrication skills, so if a work-around for the mount can be figured out, you should be able to bring it all together. How much space do you have between the shaft and the engine mounting bracket?
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That was certainly known to be a possible outcome with the overall combination of parts you have. The header modification shouldn't be that difficult for someone with fabrication skills, so if a work-around for the mount can be figured out, you should be able to bring it all together. How much space do you have between the shaft and the engine mounting bracket?
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Originally Posted by Gino1381
It's too dark for me to be able to see the point of interference, but a couple of things you can do is countersink the rear ear of the engine bracket and use a countersunk bolt on that side and relieve the adapter plate and/or clamshell housing with a grinder.



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