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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:32 AM
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I am swapping a 5.3 LM4 & T56 into a Honda S2000

The junkyards around me have a few of these engines complete but without a wiring harness/ECU

Basically what I am wondering is if I can use a F-Body LS1 wiring harness/ecu combo (flashed of course) to run my setup? I am using all of the Fbody accessories/intake.

What troubles can I expect or what else would I need?

Im ready to pull the trigger on the engine but I want to be sure of this.

Thank you and sorry if this is a dumb question im new to this stuff
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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PSI has a harness for you 500$ plug and play and you know it works, plus free tech support. Also they can provide you with a flashed ecu for 200 for your exact setup, and start up. So 700 dollars and you get no confusion worth it to me. I should probably go introduce my self now lol. Dont forget about a chassis harness aka head lights and what not you may need to look into that as well.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:04 AM
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Im not really looking to buy a cheap aftermarket harness.
Im wondering if an fbody harness would work with this engine/transmission
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:51 AM
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F body harness will work but the injector connectors are different than the truck ones, but if you are planning on running a car intake and injectors it will be fine.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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Don't forget to upgrade the diff to a 8.8 ford to handle your new found power. There are kits out there for this or build your own.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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yeah a new rear is definitely on the list but i want to get it up and running first with the stock rear

so what I am gathering is that as long as you match the harness and ECU you are fine?

Also the only difference between the two are the injector clips. Nothing else?
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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As long as it's a GEN III engine w/ls1 harness, matching PCM and ls1 intake and injectors, you are fine.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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thank you!!
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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so it seems one of the junkyards lied to me. the engine has a harness but no ecu. would it be better to just source an ecu and switch over the injector connectors or go fbody for everything
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 03:48 PM
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I highly doubt a truck intake would fit under your hood anyway. If you are not modding your own truck harness to ls1 style, that doesn't matter either. A ls1 harness has everything you need and a bunch of things you probably don't, but is easier to convert to stand alone since everything is there. You can get a PCM for about 200 already flashed to work with the stand alone Ls1 harness. Or you can source them separately but costs about the same.
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 08:32 AM
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Okay so the truck engine came with a complete engine harness in great condition so I would like to use it if possible. Trouble is it did not come with an ECU

From my understanding all I have to change is the injector connectors.. this is no problem. Does anyone know what type they are?

So I have a few questions

1) Is this the ECU I need? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-BUICK-RAINIER-Engine-Brain-Box-CONTROL-UNIT-ECM-ECU-5-3L-next-to-air-box-/390762039554?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5afb3b8902&vxp=mtr
2) Will I need any T56 specific wiring? Where would be a good place to source this

3) Are there any other issues I am going to run into?
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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you can skip down to wiring
http://www.ls1.com/forums/f8/how-4l6...f-body-161462/

pinouts and stand alone conversion

http://www.lt1swap.com/wiringharness.htm
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 09:14 AM
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Thanks! Wow theres so much information out there. So I can use the ECU I listed?

Also where is a good place to source the injector connectors

Thanks

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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 09:42 AM
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The PCM listed is for drive by wire. Most Ls1 are drive by cable except Corvette. The link I sent you will also tell you The pcm needed for drive by cable and if a newer pcm will work. Look for hardware number and service number.

http://www.lt1swap.com/cable_conversion.htm
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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EV1 Connectors
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You can use these if you don't feel like wiring connectors
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-14464-a8
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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ahhhh gotcha. perfect.
thanks again
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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There are numerous PCM's you can use. I went with the famous 411 in my 240sx FYI. Had it flashed by Wiring Specialties for a great price since I am also getting my wiring harness made up by the them.

My setup:
05 LM7
LS6 Intake with Drive-By-Cable conversion (truck intake will not work with most of our import hoods)
LS6 OEM injectors on an Ebay Fuel Rail
CTS-V Accessory Drive (frees up about 3 inches of space between rad and balancer)
411 PCM reflashed

Pretty generic setup. I dont know a damn thing about wiring so I left it up to the pros. A few local guys made their own harness into their imports but I just felt more warm and fuzzy having the pros make it for me.
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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just ordered a 12576106 pcm
injector connectors are next then i think i need some misc connectors for the t56 then get down to some wiring!

thanks everyone
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When I modded my 2005 L33 drive by wire to drive by cable. I made sure not to cut any of the unpinned wires from the Blue/green connector. That way I had a nice long tps and Iac harness. I use the oil pressure switch connector for the tps, but had to source the iac connector from the junkyard($2). Any wire connections I soldered(there is debate on which is best on this forum). I have never had issues with soldered joints though. Once I had all unused wires(emission stuff) removed, then I converted to drive by cable. That way there was no confusion what was left to do. I followed the lt1swap.com pinouts and used the pictures on the facebook step by step to complete the harness with no issues.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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Just realizing the engine did not come with the MAF. Is there a specific one I need to get or anything?
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