66 Chevelle project
I am planning to leave it the same color. The outside is DECENT. A couple issues here and there. The interior (dash, door & 1/4 upper and lowers) look TERRIBLE. Looks like the previous owner put the interior paint on with a roller. On top of that, I had a new dash made (see earlier in thread). I really like this color though. It's Indigo Blue from early 90s GM trucks.
-Jim
Here is what I started with:
Don't mind the floor seam. It's another from the previous owner that I'll have to attempt to clean up and seam-seal.
First, I tried just adding material with the welder, then grind it down. Here how it started:
And how those ended up:
That was taking too long - weld, grind, weld, grind, etc. So I decided to do a couple by just cutting out a small piece of metal and stitching that in. It went WAY faster, but I don't think it looks as good. But I'm not too concerned about that. This is a driver and it'll be under everything:
Hoping to get the rest of the floor done this week so I can get the car to the painters for this inside paint. My pile of parts (seats, wiring, steering column, TigerCage, carpet is starting to get bored sitting in the garage instead of the car.
Here's what I started with:
Took a 4" grinder to the floor and a lot of adhesive remover:
Finally, two coats of rust-converter:
One side done. Hoping to get the rest of the holes on the driver's side filled and floor prepped this weekend.

Question: I spot welded the pans together. Do I need to stitch them together completely? Or is spot welding OK, then seam seal?
A couple more of what I started with:
Lot's of holes. The holes in the lower part of the picture look weird, but it's just my aggregate driveway you can see through the holes:

Holes on the top of the tunnel. WTH were these for?

More holes:

Last one. Not sure why they made all these holes to mount seats. And more of the un-welded floor pans:

Started stitching the pans:

Is this enough welds, then seam seal? Or should I put them completely together?

Holes at the top of the tunnel filled:

Put some primer down on the other side. I like how it turned out:

Nu-Relic power window - Work great. No instructions though, so it was a process of removing one side and replace regulator with power one. Pretty easy. I am ready to do the rear quarter windows, but found out they sent me the ones for a convertible. I am awaiting the replacements. Found a great YouTube video on it as I hear they are a pain -
Corbeau Seats - Fit pretty darn well and easy to install. I drilled a couple holes for the bolts as my floors were jacked up by the previous owner and I had to fill a BUNCH of holes from the crappy seats he put in. No biggie. My plan is to weld the bolts facing up to create studs to mount the seats. The seats are comfy, but they sit up a little high for my taste. Not sure what can be done other than cutting out a section of the brackets, but then I think mounting the brackets will be next to impossible. I guess I'll drive it for a while to see.
Tiger Cage - REALLY cool with good instructions. Bolts through the floor and down to the frame. I opted for the door bars and harness bar as well. The main hoop hooks to brackets on the floor, which bolt through floor and to brackets that bolt to frame. Rear bars attach through rear package tray to truck bars with attach through floor to brackets which bolt to frame. Door bars attach to main hoop in rear and in the front, to brackets which bolt through floor and to bracket bolted to frame. In my car, installation was a pain in the @$$. First, the previous owner replaces the front floor pans and didn't do a good job. Therefore things didn't line up great for the door-brace bars. Had to do quite a but of work to get everything to line up. Second, my battery box in the trunk was placed almost exactly where the trunk bars go, so I had to move that. Finally, I broke two cheap sockets and an allen socket trying to torque the bolts down. Time for a tool upgrade

Oh and I also put in the 4-point RideTech harnesses in.
Pics:
Ignore the dash. I have a new one to put in from ABC. But have a LOT of things to do before that.
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Nu-Relic power window - Work great. No instructions though, so it was a process of removing one side and replace regulator with power one. Pretty easy. I am ready to do the rear quarter windows, but found out they sent me the ones for a convertible. I am awaiting the replacements. Found a great YouTube video on it as I hear they are a pain -
Corbeau Seats - Fit pretty darn well and easy to install. I drilled a couple holes for the bolts as my floors were jacked up by the previous owner and I had to fill a BUNCH of holes from the crappy seats he put in. No biggie. My plan is to weld the bolts facing up to create studs to mount the seats. The seats are comfy, but they sit up a little high for my taste. Not sure what can be done other than cutting out a section of the brackets, but then I think mounting the brackets will be next to impossible. I guess I'll drive it for a while to see.
Tiger Cage - REALLY cool with good instructions. Bolts through the floor and down to the frame. I opted for the door bars and harness bar as well. The main hoop hooks to brackets on the floor, which bolt through floor and to brackets that bolt to frame. Rear bars attach through rear package tray to truck bars with attach through floor to brackets which bolt to frame. Door bars attach to main hoop in rear and in the front, to brackets which bolt through floor and to bracket bolted to frame. In my car, installation was a pain in the @$$. First, the previous owner replaces the front floor pans and didn't do a good job. Therefore things didn't line up great for the door-brace bars. Had to do quite a but of work to get everything to line up. Second, my battery box in the trunk was placed almost exactly where the trunk bars go, so I had to move that. Finally, I broke two cheap sockets and an allen socket trying to torque the bolts down. Time for a tool upgrade

Oh and I also put in the 4-point RideTech harnesses in.
Pics:
Ignore the dash. I have a new one to put in from ABC. But have a LOT of things to do before that.
Removing heater core:
The more I get into this car, the more I see I have to fix from the previous owner. I knew there was a little rust on the firewall by the heater core. I imagine this isn't too uncommon as I am sure the leak a bit. However, when the previous owner installed the new front floor pans, it appears they just attached (a couple welds) to the rusty area. Now I have to cut more out and patch. It's not that big of a deal as I'm going to run vintage air as well as smooth the firewall. Pics:
Hole at bottom of heater core:
From inside - you can see the new floor welded to rusty firewall:
Wasp nest (thankfully vacant) that was inside heater core:
Then I welded in stud for the seats to make it easier to put seats in:
Next I'll start on dynamat for the floors and trunk under the air ride tank and compressor
Keep up the good work, and keep the reports coming.
No it's not enough. Anytime you do a patch, the correct way is to butt weld around the entire patch panel then grind smooth without grinding too much and thining the metal. The repair should be nearly invisible. Tacked patches are not as strong, can flex and break the welds, let moisture and rust in, etc, etc.
In order to have everything perfect, then probably yes. However, most of the panels are spot welded from the factory...at least floors to braces underneath. Although it may be better to cut everything out and butt weld them completely, I'm not taking this car all the way down. I'm making a nice driver. On top of that, I've ground down everything on the floors I could, filled the holes and put rust inhibitor, primed and painted. I'm not trying to be combative and I know I asked the question, but I JUST put the seam sealer down yesterday.
When I patch the area by the old heater core, I will definitely butt weld completely
No it's not enough. Anytime you do a patch, the correct way is to butt weld around the entire patch panel then grind smooth without grinding too much and thining the metal. The repair should be nearly invisible. Tacked patches are not as strong, can flex and break the welds, let moisture and rust in, etc, etc.
Side note - you should ABSOLUTELY follow the prep instructions. I used their degreaser/cleaner, then metal prep, then POR-15.
Area prepped:
Sorry, no pics with just the POR-15, but here it is with Dynamat:
Was also able to work on the quarter windows. Took out the regulators and cleaned everything up. Still need to paint the roller channels so I can put in the Nu-Relics power windows.
Can you tell which one I cleaned first?
Roller channels. I was able to get the wire wheel on most of the area, then scratch up the rest. I hit it with some rust-converter and need to paint them to put them back in. I also ordered some of the window rollers to try to smooth out the window operation. Just waiting for them to come in.
At any rate, I figured I could take out the dash and start to prep the inner firewall for Dynamat and Vintage Air. I assume that my inner firewall is pretty common with a fair amount of surface rust and a little rot here and there. Here are my pictures on the clean up and POR-15 (LOVE this stuff):
If you remember, here is what I started with around the heater box:
I cut out the offending rust areas and welded in patch panels. I just made my own panels as I couldn't find smaller patch panels without buying the whole firewall and paying six billion dollars in shipping.
VERY important to remember I am not a welder or metal fabricator. I put in my homemade patch pieces and they were OK structurally, but the welds were HIDEOUS. I didn't think I cared as they will be covered with Dynamat and the outside will be smoothed. Honestly, I didn't even take too many pictures from embarrassment. In progress:
So I took out the dash to find this. Not too terrible, but needing attention:
I decided to clean up the passenger side first and them POR-15 it. POR-15 is great, but I have heard horror stories from people. My guess is they didn't prep well. I used their de-greaser and prep spray and everything went very well (you can see my crappy welds and patch work):
Two things about the patch work bothered me. The welds and it was a little flimsy. I don't have a bead roller, so I couldn't put the little lip in at the opening for the heater box or beads for strength. Necessity is the mother of invention, so I decided to try a fix. I took some pretty heavy steel and bolted them to the outside of the firewall right below where the lip is supposed to be for the heater box. Then took a handy body hammer and bent the metal over it. FIXED. It is now solid. I welded up the holes, decided the grind the welds pretty good and POR-15'ed the rest. It ain't perfect, no doubt about that, but it's solid, it will last and no one will see it:
The lighting makes it look like there's a crease in the patch, but there isn't
Next, I'll do the drivers side, but for that I have to take out the wiring and that leads to doing EVERYTHING else. Gotta save some $ for the motor I suppose.










