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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 08:24 AM
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Got most of the accessories on.
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 08:57 PM
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looks like you might need a steering hose for clearance of pulley. Does your joint in middle of steering shaft clear header? mine didnt I had to grind on it a bit.
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 07:23 PM
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They both clear fine, pics are at bad angles.
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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cool beans. my shortie headers came today for my truck 5.3 swap I want to get going on. Started getting parts/things done I can do for now. Truck harness done until can install. But before get on truck I need to make my buick drive to enjoy cruise in nights.
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 10:49 PM
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What are you planning on doing for your gauges?
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 76larkman
cool beans. my shortie headers came today for my truck 5.3 swap I want to get going on. Started getting parts/things done I can do for now. Truck harness done until can install. But before get on truck I need to make my buick drive to enjoy cruise in nights.
I tell you what there's always a few things that you just keep putting off cuz they aren't fun at all. I'm learning to just keep chipping away at it though!
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by '87 Monte SS
LsxCutty,

What are you planning on doing for your gauges?
The car has the rally guage setup, so the goal is to get all the original guages working, I'll wire the stock tach, I ordered a m16 to 1/8 npt for the oil pressure. I have to find a spot to tap for water temp. The only part I'm not messing with now is the speedo I'll use an app on my smartphone for mph (via GPS) and stay with the flow of traffic as long as a ricer doesn't try me!!! I plan on going back to a 3 speed auto once the car is making more power down the road!
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 08:20 AM
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I put on my new brake lines, and laid out my harness to see if I can mount my computer where I want to, looks like it should work out.

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Driver side
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I am almost done cleaning and redoing my front suspension and steering.
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The next things on the list are relooming my engine harness, and breaking the crank pulley bolt loose which should be fun since I don't have the flexplate lockup tool but I do have a few shade tree tricks up my sleeve!
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 09:31 AM
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your passenger side a frame bolt will run into header tube looks like. you will probably need to cut some length off it. I had to as well.
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 76larkman
your passenger side a frame bolt will run into header tube looks like. you will probably need to cut some length off it. I had to as well.
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It actually clears great, header does touch the frame itself where they start to bend but I knew that would happen. I'm going to pie cut the headers under the flange and bend them in a bit and get the rewelded.
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LsxCutty
The car has the rally guage setup, so the goal is to get all the original guages working, I'll wire the stock tach, I ordered a m16 to 1/8 npt for the oil pressure. I have to find a spot to tap for water temp. The only part I'm not messing with now is the speedo I'll use an app on my smartphone for mph (via GPS) and stay with the flow of traffic as long as a ricer doesn't try me!!! I plan on going back to a 3 speed auto once the car is making more power down the road!
I too have rally gauges in my Monte and I used this approach for the water temp gauge.

I bought a temp sending unit for a '98 Fbody. That sending unit is for a 3 wire connector. Next, I bought a harness adapter from TPI Parts, so it allows you to connect your 2 wire harness that goes to the PCM, connect to the temp sending unit. The extra wire is then spliced in to your stock Olds temp wire.

Let me see if I can get some pics posted to show....photobucket is being a turd right now.
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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 11:51 AM
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Ok, I think photobucket is cooperating. Here are a few pics...

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The harness to the PCM plugs here

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This end plugs in to the '98 sending unit.

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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 12:20 AM
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OK so you didn't use the spohn 971 and fbody mounts. It appears you used spohn solid motor mounts with 1" setback plates with spohn sbc motor mounts. The reason I say setback plates is because the fbody oilpan and headers. Or am I completely wrong I need to do this swap soon in my 84 hurst and I have a wrecked fbody with headers ready to go.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 02:47 PM
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OK so you didn't use the spohn 971 and fbody mounts. It appears you used spohn solid motor mounts with 1" setback plates with spohn sbc motor mounts. The reason I say setback plates is because the fbody oilpan and headers. Or am I completely wrong I need to do this swap soon in my 84 hurst and I have a wrecked fbody with headers ready to go.
I used solid SBC frame pads from speedway and poly SBC motor mounts with 1" setbacks. I must have ordered the wrong frame pads because I had to cut them smaller to get the holes on motor mounts to line up, I'm talking like a 1/2"! My oil pan barely touches on the underside of pan so I will have to cut a small piece of frame for clearance!
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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motor swaps are like going to hardware store/parts store throwing everything in a box shake it. what comes out make it fit. Ls combo can be had about any way imagineable, its the fabricator thats complicated.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 76larkman
motor swaps are like going to hardware store/parts store throwing everything in a box shake it. what comes out make it fit. Ls combo can be had about any way imagineable, its the fabricator thats complicated.
Your swap experience using Hooker components would be quite different.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 09:41 PM
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Your swap experience using Hooker components would be quite different.
My swap on buick wasnt terrible just a learning curve. Now getting small things done. Getting/working on parts collecting for square body truck build. I love this site.
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 10:14 AM
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Got the crank pulley bolt loose, I put two screws in the crank where the flexplate bolts on and wrapped a strapped to the bolts then around frame heated the bolt up and it broke loose...Name:  IMG_20150306_170013393_zpsef4o8uug.jpg
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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I got her Rollin again, pulled accessories, next up is to put tranny in to see how things line up. I'm going to have to set the cross member back 1" I think (I measured) and see how I can get my column shift to work the longtubes might get in the way. Measure for my driveshaft that should keep me busy for a little while.
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 02:10 PM
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looks great so far!! im just now jumping into my gbody lsx project. I will keep an eye on this post. Good Luck!
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