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Old Jan 28, 2017 | 09:44 PM
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Hello all,

Swapping a L92+6L80E from an 08 escalade into my land cruiser. I intend to wire up enough of the BCM to use it for cruise control and TUTD shifting (and if possible P/N starter interlock and reverse lights, but these are secondary goals).

I seem to remember reading somewhere that if a VATS disable is done on the PCM that it will no longer communicate with the BCM. I can't find that thread anymore.. and no idea whether it applies to certain PCMs and/or different tuning software types or not.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks for any help.. this place is quite an awesome resource

-Justin

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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 05:00 AM
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Please don't take this as verbatim but I have experience with 08/early 09 LS3 (before they went to brass throttle body blade revisions..) E38 ECU and was going to go 6L80 with my swap initially, so TUTD was critical.. From what I could tell, BCM does not handle this function, as the ECU also plays TCM... so I was just do the HP Tuner VATS delete and go from there. I knew a guy who owned an auto electrician business, he was considering hacking BCM/making thrust vectoring/stability control work on my swap but said it also would be incredibly hard. Basically, BCM is nearly impossible to work with for a mere mortal like you or I.

There is also an update to the 6L80 with the '14 stingray that gives shift times around 200ms. Mostly software/'TCM' but some changes supposedly to the valve body.

Good luck..
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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 09:56 AM
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I've been doing a lot of digging on tuning the BCM and agree.. everything I'm seeing suggests (or flat-out states) that actually making changes to the BCM is well above most of our heads.

However, there are a couple cases I've found (online) of the BCM being wired up to control those functions just fine.. and another case of someone seemingly reputable on here giving the advice repeatedly that wiring in the BCM is the cheap/easy way to get those functions on a E38 ECU.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...l#post14738394
http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/13.../photo-17.html

Basically, I'm not giving up yet.
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Old Jan 30, 2017 | 12:39 AM
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BCM is needed for this TAP shift option to work. The TAP switch shifter creates a mulitplex signal to the BCM. The BCM takes those signals and sends them over CAN BUS to the TCM. The TCM then decides if it is safe to shift. We have this fully functional on factory truck calibrations. Also cruise works the same way.
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Old Jan 30, 2017 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by vannatta20
BCM is needed for this TAP shift option to work. The TAP switch shifter creates a mulitplex signal to the BCM. The BCM takes those signals and sends them over CAN BUS to the TCM. The TCM then decides if it is safe to shift. We have this fully functional on factory truck calibrations. Also cruise works the same way.
Thanks for confirmation that this will work.

When you do it, is anything special needed with BCM calibration? or just give it power/ground, relevant switch wires, GMLAN hookup, and it works?

Does VATS delete present any problems?
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