Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Impala Wagon Swap build.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 25, 2018 | 07:53 PM
  #21  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Box of goodness arrived today. Motivation has been kicked up a notch.
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2018 | 04:23 AM
  #22  
chevydarrell's Avatar
Teching In
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 31
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by underpowered
Just gotta keep an eye out for a deal. I wanted a 6.0 but assumed i would have to settle for a 5.3 due to my budget. But after a bit of looking, bought the 6.0 from a friend for $1200, but sold the Trans and T-case that came with it for $800. Ended up with only $500 in the complete 6.0 with full harness and ECU.

Dropping of the harness to be cut down tonight and picking up a a few tools to help with disassembly as well. Hopefully it will be down to the short block by the weekend.
I have a 2006 5.3L LH6 that I could put in my 94 Caprice but I guess I sometimes fear that it would be a bit underpowered
even though the 5.3L would most likely put out more power than the original 5.7L LT-1. I just have "bigger is better syndrome" lol
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2018 | 09:56 AM
  #23  
G Atsma's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 22,295
Likes: 3,617
From: Central Cal.
Default

LT-1 = 250HP, LH6 = about 320HP. So yeah, a little more power...
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2018 | 05:52 AM
  #24  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Got impatient waiting to borrow a pulled so i went ahead and pulled the engine the rest of the way apart as far as i could without it. my Impact ran a few ugga dugga's short of removing the crank bolt. gotta call in reinforcements later this week.

pretty clean inside throughout.


Reply
Old Oct 31, 2018 | 01:51 PM
  #25  
chevydarrell's Avatar
Teching In
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 31
Likes: 2
Default

Your Motor is Looking Good!!
I got my Stage 2 Turbo Cam and DOD Delete kit from Tooley today. Need to take my 5.3L to the Machine Shop over in Wichita in the morning. My motor has the better rods so I will use them, but plan to replace pistons. Been eye balling the twin turbo kits on ebay wondering how they stand up?

Last edited by chevydarrell; Oct 31, 2018 at 01:56 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2018 | 10:13 AM
  #26  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Crank bolt is being extra stubborn. tried 3 different 1/2" impacts and it won't budge. Gonna add a touch of heat next, if that doesn't do it gonna have to break out the big gun (3/4") from a buddy.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2018 | 07:52 PM
  #27  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Engine is torn down to short block state. Ordering more parts this week for reassembly. Gaskets and such.

in the meantime, harness has been dropped off to a friend to build that part for me. Rather them me fumble my way through it, rather have someone who knows what they are doing work it up into a stand alone setup,

building him a wagon of his own in trade, for his son.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2018 | 08:58 PM
  #28  
TipsyMcStagger's Avatar
TECH Resident
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 904
Likes: 6
From: FL Gulf Coast
Default

Originally Posted by underpowered
Crank bolt is being extra stubborn. tried 3 different 1/2" impacts and it won't budge. Gonna add a touch of heat next, if that doesn't do it gonna have to break out the big gun (3/4") from a buddy.
How about a breaker bar and a 4' pipe slipped over the handle?

Last edited by TipsyMcStagger; Nov 5, 2018 at 05:41 AM.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 5, 2018 | 05:36 AM
  #29  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Originally Posted by TipsyMcStagger
How about a beaker bar and a 4' pipe slipped over the handle?
hard to keep the engine from turning over on the stand. with the extra spacer for the 6.0 flexplate I had to remove it to bolt it up to my engine stand and it left me with no good way to hold the rotating assemble from rotating while getting the bolt out.

a little heat on the head of the bolt to break it free of the sealant used and the 1/2" impact finally got it off but not without a fight still.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2018 | 07:50 PM
  #30  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Officially scored a T56 from a 2000 F-body today. I think i got an Ok deal on it, $600 seem fair? have the Camaro on hand to pull the pedals from as well. Should make the swap a bit smoother.

have the rest of the engine assembly parts as well. Hoping to slap it back together after the holidays then drop it off at the tuners to at least put a baseline tune on it before dropping it in the car to make the first fire up easier to load it on the trailer for final dyno tune.

taking a touch longer than expected to get the ball rolling on it all, but should be getting back on it soon.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2018 | 11:10 PM
  #31  
CattleAc's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,644
Likes: 429
From: Dakota Territory
Default

Originally Posted by underpowered
Officially scored a T56 from a 2000 F-body today. I think i got an Ok deal on it, $600 seem fair? have the Camaro on hand to pull the pedals from as well. Should make the swap a bit smoother.

Wow...nice score...

Apparently you got the whole car???

How are you going to mount the pedals?
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 12:17 AM
  #32  
CattleAc's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,644
Likes: 429
From: Dakota Territory
Default

Little LS powered six-speed wagon teaser...


(I know it's a Pontiac.. but you get the idea.)


Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 03:25 AM
  #33  
chevydarrell's Avatar
Teching In
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 31
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by CattleAc
Little LS powered six-speed wagon teaser...


(I know it's a Pontiac.. but you get the idea.)


What a sweet Pontiac! Used to have a Olds Custom Cruiser, Now have 94 Caprice.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 03:27 AM
  #34  
chevydarrell's Avatar
Teching In
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 31
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by underpowered
Officially scored a T56 from a 2000 F-body today. I think i got an Ok deal on it, $600 seem fair? have the Camaro on hand to pull the pedals from as well. Should make the swap a bit smoother.

have the rest of the engine assembly parts as well. Hoping to slap it back together after the holidays then drop it off at the tuners to at least put a baseline tune on it before dropping it in the car to make the first fire up easier to load it on the trailer for final dyno tune.

taking a touch longer than expected to get the ball rolling on it all, but should be getting back on it soon.
Looks like your making nice progress! I also am quit interested in how you mount the clutch pedal?
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 06:00 AM
  #35  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Originally Posted by CattleAc
Wow...nice score...

Apparently you got the whole car???

How are you going to mount the pedals?
Not sure yet, have not so much as looked at how they are mounted in the Camaro yet. More of a "i'll cross that bridge when i get there" deal.

and I just bought the trans, but have access to the car to get any other parts I need for the swap free of charge. It is being parted out slowly.

Saw the Shaken and Stirred wagon at LS Fest a couple years back. It is a bit of my inspiration.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 09:28 AM
  #36  
OLDSMAN's Avatar
Teching In
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 48
Likes: 1
Default

Three Pedals sells a pedal assembly and all the trimmings for your application. I think you will find that a lower rear gear would be required. Otherwise, you will have to ride the clutch like crazy off the line.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 01:20 PM
  #37  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Originally Posted by OLDSMAN
Three Pedals sells a pedal assembly and all the trimmings for your application. I think you will find that a lower rear gear would be required. Otherwise, you will have to ride the clutch like crazy off the line.
Yupp, lower gear is for sure a must. The stock 2.73 will render 6th gear useless and indeed require lots of clutch feathering on take off. thinking either 3.73 or 4.10. Ideally i want something in the middle of about a 3.90 but have not found that option for my 10b.

Yeah, the above posted pontiac safari wagon is a three pedals sponsored car and is usually at their booth at LS fest. While it would be nice to buy their stuff, I see no reason i can't fab it up myself. I am all about built not bought. The three pedals setup would kill the budget as well.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 06:55 PM
  #38  
CattleAc's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,644
Likes: 429
From: Dakota Territory
Default

I hope I didn't muck up your thread with that picture of the "Three Pedal Wagon"...I just thought it was kinda' cool, and sort of the direction you are headed with yours.

I try and fabricate all my own parts also...I wasn't implying anyone should buy their parts. Just thought it was a neat ride.

Really excited to see how yours turns out!!
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 07:26 PM
  #39  
OLDSMAN's Avatar
Teching In
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 48
Likes: 1
Default

The Three Pedals wagon has 4:10 gears because they are hard core, but 3:73 would probably be good too.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2018 | 08:06 PM
  #40  
underpowered's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 184
Likes: 8
From: cain-tuck-ee
Default

Originally Posted by CattleAc
I hope I didn't muck up your thread with that picture of the "Three Pedal Wagon"...I just thought it was kinda' cool, and sort of the direction you are headed with yours.

I try and fabricate all my own parts also...I wasn't implying anyone should buy their parts. Just thought it was a neat ride.

Really excited to see how yours turns out!!

No issue at all. It is a very cool car and definitely the direction I am going.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:27 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE