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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 07:10 PM
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Looking around for an LQ9 to swap into my K1500 for about a 400hp build. Truck has about 257k miles on it now and I can just about guarantee that neither differential has ever been opened. So, for the new setup, I figured let's look at some differentials that will stand up to the new power from the motor. From any of the other folks that have done this or a similar swap in a K1500 around this year, any recommendations on who to go with for a new posi for both ends? I figure gear ratio matters, and while I don't know it off the top of my head, I can check it if I can figure out where to look.
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 09:51 PM
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I think it depends on what you're planning to do with it. I would put 8600lb 3/4 /1 ton axles. Atleast a 9.5 rear axle. Z71, Escalades, Denalis use 3.73s.
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 10:17 PM
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You will be fine with your stock diffs for now,as long as they are still in decent shape, as mentioned above look for some 2500 eight lug axles if you are serious about beating on it.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 08:19 AM
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What size tires are you running? With a 35" tire the 10 bolts are worthless with any power applied. The best option for you is to find yourself a 6 lug 9.5 14 bolt rear end.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 10:31 AM
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What size tires are you running? With a 35" tire the 10 bolts are worthless with any power applied. The best option for you is to find yourself a 6 lug 9.5 14 bolt rear end.
285/75R16, or about 32.8 inches. I may be thinking of this wrong, but I thought the rear end was already a 6 lug or 12 bolt or however you call it? I could’ve sworn it was 6 lugs on each side. I’m looking through some photos I have from when the wheels were replaced and it looks like 6 lugs.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 11:02 AM
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your rear should be 10 bolt and six lug. I have no experience with 10 bolts and decent power but i do with older 12 bolts and they hold together fine. id look 14b or D60 in 3/4 stuff but if you want to stay 1/2 id go 9" ford
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 01:18 PM
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The stock differential carrier or case is the weakest link in the 8.5 Corp axle. An aftermarket posi unit is something to consider if you stay with the 8.5. There are 6 lug 9.5 axle (14 bolt). Changing front axle doesn't necessarily require changing bolt pattern, because of half shafts.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowroll
The stock differential carrier or case is the weakest link in the 8.5 Corp axle. An aftermarket posi unit is something to consider if you stay with the 8.5. There are 6 lug 9.5 axle (14 bolt). Changing front axle doesn't necessarily require changing bolt pattern, because of half shafts.
Any recommendations on who to look at for an aftermarket posi if I stay with the 8.5? I might upgrade to some beefier axles a while later, but if the 8.5 will hold the power with an aftermarket posi then why not swap in a stronger carrier and enjoy?
Dumb question, but would the posi for the front and rear be different? I think the front axle and rear axle are different since the front is independent and the rear is leaf, right? Or does that not necessarily matter?
It’s not needing to be super beefy for pure off-road use. While it sees more off-road use than most pavement crawlers, it’s not hardly enough to warrant a serious off-road build on it.
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Originally Posted by Iron_LS1_C10
your rear should be 10 bolt and six lug. I have no experience with 10 bolts and decent power but i do with older 12 bolts and they hold together fine. id look 14b or D60 in 3/4 stuff but if you want to stay 1/2 id go 9" ford
Ahh, that makes sense, the amount of lugs are not the same as the amount of bolts. What would the difference between the 10 and 12 bolt be? Just how many bolts it takes to secure it to the truck? This may also be a dumb question but I’d like to understand this a bit more, axles are somewhat like Greek to me.
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Originally Posted by KenMathisHD

Ahh, that makes sense. What would the difference between the 10 and 12 bolt be? Just how many bolts it takes to secure it to the truck?
Coincidentally, a 12 bolt rear uses 12 bolts to hold the ring gear to the diff, AND 12 bolts to bolt the rear cover on. So look for 12 bolts on the diff cover for quick ID.
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With a 32" tire you will be fine with an aftermarket 10 bolt posi unit as long as you aren't beating on it hard. The problem with a 12 bolt rear and your truck is that they do not have the same spring pad widths so a 12 bolt will not be a bolt in. You would need to cut off the spring pads and weld on a new pair in the right spots.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1964SS
With a 32" tire you will be fine with an aftermarket 10 bolt posi unit as long as you aren't beating on it hard. The problem with a 12 bolt rear and your truck is that they do not have the same spring pad widths so a 12 bolt will not be a bolt in. You would need to cut off the spring pads and weld on a new pair in the right spots.
It’ll probably see the extent of it’s new power rather rarely, as long as it can handle 4th-3rd-back to 4th when going over the countless hills we have here then it probably won’t see much more abuse. Maybe I’d get on it once every now and then just to smile but that’s about it.

Out of curiosity, are there other axles that would bolt in without welding done on the frame?
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Coincidentally, a 12 bolt rear uses 12 bolts to hold the ring gear to the diff, AND 12 bolts to bolt the rear cover on. So look for 12 bolts on the diff cover for quick ID.
Not near the truck atm but will check this out when I get home tonight.
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Originally Posted by KenMathisHD

It’ll probably see the extent of it’s new power rather rarely, as long as it can handle 4th-3rd-back to 4th when going over the countless hills we have here then it probably won’t see much more abuse. Maybe I’d get on it once every now and then just to smile but that’s about it.

Out of curiosity, are there other axles that would bolt in without welding done on the frame?
Yes they chevrolet provided 9.5" 14 bolt axles under your model trucks. The heavy half tons got a 6 lug version of it so your rims would even still work. I put one under my 95 suburban years back and it was a beast.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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Yes they chevrolet provided 9.5" 14 bolt axles under your model trucks. The heavy half tons got a 6 lug version of it so your rims would even still work. I put one under my 95 suburban years back and it was a beast.
Doing some research, that’s quite tempting. If I can find a front a rear 9.5” 14 bolt within the next couple years for a good price I may very well do the conversion - I probably still won’t go with a bigger wheel just because I really like the way mine look, but at least I can be a little more generous with the throttle then.
For a front and rear posi for the 8.5”, is there a brand or part any of y’all recommend to run above others? I don’t want to think I found a great deal only to end up stuck somewhere with a busted knockoff from China.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 05:44 PM
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TruTrac is pretty good. Smooth, quiet, and quite strong. Eaton makes them.
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I'll let you in on a little secret...you're gonna' blow through that old 700r4 transmission (if you spend the time and money to make it work) way before you have to worry about your diff... and they are such a pain in the *** to try and make work with the LS platform, your gonna' have to switch to a electronic 4l60e anyhow. So, yeah, a diff is the least of your concerns right now.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CattleAc
I'll let you in on a little secret...you're gonna' blow through that old 700r4 transmission (if you spend the time and money to make it work) way before you have to worry about your diff... and they are such a pain in the *** to try and make work with the LS platform, your gonna' have to switch to a electronic 4l60e anyhow. So, yeah, a diff is the least of your concerns right now.
Can’t you have the ecu reprogrammed to act as a controller only for the engine, and then use an adapter to bolt the LQ9 flexplate to the converter of the 700R4? The trans going in will not be a stock 700R4, so it should be able to handle the new engine from a power standpoint. From what I’ve been reading, my understanding is that if the engine is controlled on it’s lonesome and tuned so that it runs correctly on it’s own, then I should be fine to use a dbc setup for throttle on the LQ9 to attach the tv cable to, right? Since shift points are valve determined, I would assume (though I’d have to look more into it) that you could then adjust that valve to change shift points and such so the trans will hold together and not kill itself or stall the engine, right?
To be straight, I’m probably overlooking something huge that will cause it to break apart, so please pick at that relentlessly as I’d like to get it to work somehow.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 10:58 PM
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Momentary Segway, just got home and counted bolts on diff cover, not 12 bolt. Given the lack of alternatives, I assume this means 8.5” 10 bolt 6 lug correct?
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Go 4L80E and never worry about losing sleep at night.
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