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Old Oct 23, 2019 | 10:41 AM
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1999 5.3-manual Trans(t10) with no vss
-DBW pcm(blue/green), harness and tac module/pedal from ‘04 Silverado.
Ive already checked wiring numerous times. Engine turns over but the coils and injectors are not getting signal to fire although both have power with key on and while cranking.
-Grounds at both heads and frame.
-New crank sensor.
-Vats disabled via HP tuners.
-50+psi of fuel at rails.
-ive also tried injectors from a good car with no change.
The only code I’m getting is a p0107 (map sensor low volt) and I have tried another map sensor and checked the wiring.
Any ideas?
Just thinking out loud since I do not have a VSS signal I’m assuming that’s why hp tuners shows no rpm while cranking? I’ve read a lack of vss signal shouldn’t keep it from starting though.

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Old Oct 23, 2019 | 10:02 PM
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VSS is vehicle speed, not engine speed so it has nothing to do with why you don't see any rpm while cranking. Do you have the crank sensor plugged in? Its behind the starter so may have missed that one?
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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71
VSS is vehicle speed, not engine speed so it has nothing to do with why you don't see any rpm while cranking. Do you have the crank sensor plugged in? Its behind the starter so may have missed that one?
-crank sensor was replaced with a new AC Delco part.
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Maybe check the wiring going to the crank sensor. Also you only mentioned hooking up two grounds to the heads, did you hook up the one down behind the power steering pump?
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71
Maybe check the wiring going to the crank sensor. Also you only mentioned hooking up two grounds to the heads, did you hook up the one down behind the power steering pump?
Grounds on both heads as well as frame on both sides.
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Grounds on both heads as well as frame on both sides.
Do you mean ground straps going to frame from engine, or engine harness grounds going to the frame? On a truck harness there are two grounds at the rear heads and a third one that goes to the block behind the power steering pump, that one will cause a no start if left unhooked.
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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71
Do you mean ground straps going to frame from engine, or engine harness grounds going to the frame? On a truck harness there are two grounds at the rear heads and a third one that goes to the block behind the power steering pump, that one will cause a no start if left unhooked.
I’ve got a harness ground on the pass frame rail and pass rear of head, negative battery grounded to drivers frame rail and engine block.
engine turns over no problem so I figured the grounds were adequate.
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gotta have crank signal to pulse the injectors
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I would also check the cam sensor. I don't think it will start without a cam sensor signal.
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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 09:33 PM
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I would also check the cam sensor. I don't think it will start without a cam sensor signal.
Yes it will, just take longer. The cam sensor only tells the ECM whether the cylinder is on power or intake stroke. It WILL start without cam sensing. Crank sensor, no.
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Yes it will, just take longer. The cam sensor only tells the ECM whether the cylinder is on power or intake stroke. It WILL start without cam sensing. Crank sensor, no.
This evening I’m going to double check vats is disabled with hp tuners along with checking all the wiring. Again my only code is for the map sensor but I’ve also tried another map sensor so I’ll take a look at the wiring.
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