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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 01:49 PM
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I'm nearly finished with the LS3, M10 Camaro harness. Just a few nagging issues that I can't find answers to.
1: ALDL schematic. It has changed from the Gen 3 stuff I'm used to. I did a Connect and cruise install and there were data lines in it I hadn't dealt with before.
2: X1 pin 18: serial data wake up. Does it get 12V+ from ignition
3: I can't find an output for a speedometer in my pinouts.
4: X1 27,28. I think these will go to the ALDL.
Anyone know of a source where I can print schematics from. The source I had closed.
thanks guys!
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 09:28 PM
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Depending on what year camaro (I'm guessing old)

X1 18 not used in your case

X1 27-28 (twisted pair) would go to TCM but in your case now go to the ALDL with a resister (I believe 120ohm) this is high speed LAN

gen 4 now get speedometer from wheel speed sensor or GPS

https://www.ls2.com/boggs/dtcs/Scan_...LAN_Device.pdf

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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 05:13 PM
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Thank you! I found the 27,28 info today also. ALDL 14, 6. I didn't know about the speed from wheel sensors. The PCM with a Connect and cruise has a VSS out for Speedo. I'm searching for that info from a prior build but that pcm had 3 connectors. Will I still need the purple wire in pin 2 of the ALDL, and if so where to?

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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 05:33 PM
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That should be the low speed LAN data
I believe this is for other modules in the car
probably not used in your case
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Cool, I'll wire up an ALDL tomorrow and see if my scan tool and HP Tuners will communicate. Thanks a lot for the info!
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I don't know why but those wires need to be twisted.
the 120ohm resistor indicates the "end" of LAN


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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LS BRAVADA
I don't know why but those wires need to be twisted.
the 120ohm resistor indicates the "end" of LAN

they need to be twisted because it's a CAN bus, which uses a differential pair for "high speed" (usually 250 kbps) communication. Differential pair makes it much more resistant to electrical noise, twisted wire makes the differential pair most effective.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 08:02 AM
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http://automobileman.com/wp/?p=448

Good gen v info here.

http://automobileman.com/wp/?p=842


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The 2 data circuits are 2500 and 2501. From what I've found the 120 ohm resistor is in the PCM. I'll know today.
I find it interesting that the E67 PCM has circuit 818 for Speedo but the E38 doesn't. Just something I've discovered. Thanks for the help guys!
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I'm missing the trans temp plug and reverse inhibit plugs. They were cut during removal I'm guessing. Can I eliminate these 2 circuits?
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Originally Posted by rubrhammer
The 2 data circuits are 2500 and 2501. From what I've found the 120 ohm resistor is in the PCM. I'll know today.
I find it interesting that the E67 PCM has circuit 818 for Speedo but the E38 doesn't. Just something I've discovered. Thanks for the help guys!
yes, there is a resistor in the ECM already.
i believe you will need one at the ALDL also.
it doesn't seem you have any other modules so I'm not 100%
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