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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 02:55 PM
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Sometimes exciting and unreliable are synonymous.

Heck I'm over here about to order a tow hook for mine because it might be a little too spicy.

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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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The current layout of the dash is functional, but the gauges have a bit of an outdated look.



So to bring it up todays standards, I decided to replace them with Holley analog CAN gauges.



Both the speedometer and the tach will be connected to the Terminator X ECU and all data will go over the CAN bus. This makes installation super simple and clean. The fuel gauge will go in place of the FJO wideband gauge. It is a fully programmable gauge and will work well with the OEM sender that is a part of the 5th gen Camaro ZL1 pump module that I plan to use.

I also received the oil pan baffle kit and a line lock kit for when I want to smoke the tires...:-)





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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 06:13 PM
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Hurst LineLoc Roll Control.... WayBack machine needle just pegged..... lol
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 08:01 PM
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Hurst LineLoc Roll Control.... WayBack machine needle just pegged..... lol
Works as good as ever. I installed one in my Cougar that I had banging around my tool box and it's working flawlessly.

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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Hurst LineLoc Roll Control.... WayBack machine needle just pegged..... lol
lol. It’s gotta be better than the summit racing/jegs house brands.
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 09:57 AM
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My dad ordered our family wagon back in the day with a 4 speed manual. For Christmas the next year we bought him a Hurst shifter for the Muncie in the car. It came with a decal 'Shift as hard as you like - but don't break your arm.'
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 10:45 AM
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How does that age old question go?

"How do you eat an elephant?"

We all know, the answer: "One bite at a time."

Yesterday I went to the garage and just started looking around. A project of this size is pretty daunting, but I have to start somewhere. I saw my radiator sitting off to the side and then saw the Chevy Volt fans that I bought last summer at a local JY. So I thought I would see how the two go together.

Here is the set-up I've had on the car for almost 20 years. It is a huge BeCool radiator and dual SPAL fans.



The fans attach with nice little brackets that capture the top and bottom of the radiator core.



Once the old fans assembly was removed, I just placed the Volt fans on the core. I always thought I had 12" fans, but looking at the Volt dual 12" fans, it is clear that mine were either 10 or 11 inch fans.



The bottom of the Volt fans assembly is a little tab that was getting in the way.



I used a saw I had handy and just cut it off.



With the tab cut off, the fan assembly looks like it was made for this radiator. The fit is spot on!



I proceeded to strip the Volt wiring loom to the bare essentials. You can see here a close-up of the round Yazaki connectors for each fan. Each plug has three terminals. There is a power and ground and a small PWM signal wire.



The shroud has many bosses where the loom can be secured for a neat installation.



To mount the fan assembly, I am going to weld some tabs at the bottom to capture the lower tangs, and threaded bosses at the top where the fan assembly will bolt to the radiator.

The reason for going with these fans is that they are absolute monsters. Each fan is rated at 300 watts, which I am pretty sure is triple of what the old fans were. The other reason is that these fans are PWM controlled and there is no need for an external controller. The little signal wires will be connected directly to an output from my Holley Terminator X ECU, and I will program the fan speed based on coolant temperature, A/C pressure, and vehicle speed.

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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 10:59 AM
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Other than the color of the shroud Andrew, your SPAL set up looks just like mine - bought 17 years ago. They're dual 11".
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Nice. What are the dimensions of your radiator excluding the tanks?
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 02:09 PM
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Great find. Andrew. Was this ur idea ? What are the actual dimensions?(fans)

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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Nice. What are the dimensions of your radiator excluding the tanks?
John,

The radiator core is 27 3/8" wide and 18" tall, although I have some caps that protect the top and bottom of the core, making the effective available height 17 1/4" tall.

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Great find. Andrew. Was this ur idea ? What are the actual dimensions?(fans)

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What are you asking about being my idea? I've been using PWM fan control since 2015.

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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 04:43 PM
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I thought he meant good idea using (Chevy?) Volt fans - he was looking for fan dimensions?
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Yount
I thought he meant good idea using (Chevy?) Volt fans - he was looking for fan dimensions?
I don't know what he meant, which is why I was asking for clarification. I posted the core dimensions.

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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 05:27 PM
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What are the actual dimensions?(fans)”

Fans in parenthetical are what steered my thinking...
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Yount
What are the actual dimensions?(fans)”

Fans in parenthetical are what steered my thinking...
My original post said "dual 12 inch."
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 07:38 PM
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I’m guessing he missed that Andrew - but you and I seem to have fully “ventilated” it.
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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
John,

The radiator core is 27 3/8" wide and 18" tall, although I have some caps that protect the top and bottom of the core, making the effective available height 17 1/4" tall.



Jim,

What are you asking about being my idea? I've been using PWM fan control since 2015.

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Andrew,
I didn’t realize Volt fans were on your car for so long. I thought it was something you were wanting to try out ,

I was wondering on fan size as overall mounting, like what would fit the radiator core size. I was just wondering. I like to have options being I never even used my Spal fans yet.

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Old Apr 1, 2021 | 10:50 AM
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I dont think he's been using the Volt fans that long, just PWM fans. Andrew has talked through PWM fans to great extent on Lateral-G. I have PWM on the camaro and considering them on the C10 but using a brushless fan with built in controller instead of the C6 PWM controller I and many others use.
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Old Apr 1, 2021 | 11:15 AM
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Thanks will. I didnt know this.

Its a little hard to keep up with threads on my phone during breaks.


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To clarify.

The Cougar has had a PWM controlled fan since 2015 using a Holley Dominator ECU and C6 Corvette fan and fan control module.

The GTO has had electric fans since 2001, using the BeCool radiator and the dual SPAL 11" fans with the chrome shroud. These have always had binary control (ON/OFF) controlled first by a Holley Commander 950 ECU (2001-2008), then by a GMPP harness and ECU kit for the LS swap (2008-now).

The Volt fans are also SPAL, they are 12" and are brushless, and have an integrated fan controller and will be used with the Terminator X Max ECU.

I hope this clear up all the details.

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