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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 67 Hot Rod Bird
I grew up in California and recently moved to Texas and had the same smog rules questions about an engine swap. I went to the local smog referee and asked him about the rules. He really was not sure so he got out his book and we found out that the car must qualify for the later date of 3 events.....1-The year of the vehicle.....2-The year of the Engine......3-The year of the modification. I guess this means (technically) if my '67 car has a '99 engine and the swap was made in '05 I must adhere to the rules of '05.
I guess it helps that the smog refs themselves don't know the rules. How are you guys in Texas getting it done? I'm going to need some help with this in a few months when I get to the stage of getting this thing on the road.

That's only b/c you live in houston... most cities in texas don't have smog ref.. the only ones i know or are dfw and houston.. and only some of the dfw shops carry the smog equipment.. san antonio doesn't have it nor austin.. just depends on where you live in the state.. i had no emesions stuff on my 89 camaro with an LT1 swap.. egr is gone and the cats all that crap is gone.. went and got it inspected, no questions asked about it the just slapped the sitcker on... you might wanna try one of the neighboring small towns outside of h-town and see if you get any luck out there... usually they just make sure your seat belts work and all the lights work and they'll give you the sticker =D
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlieLed
Cars are smogged by engine number not body type or year...
Actually, the DMV says nothing about the engine when it references the exempt status of a vehicle. On their site it states:
Vehicles with a year model 30 years old or older are exempt from the smog certification requirements.

Example: The calendar year is 2004- 29 = 1975 exempt year model

The current calendar year minus 29 equals the year model exempt from smog certification.

Vehicles exempt from smog certification are listed above.

Note: Starting April 1, 2005, the smog exemption for vehicles 30 model years old or older will end. After that date all 1975 and older vehicles will be exempt from smog certification requirements.
Source: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm#BM2536

So in actuallity, it is based off the model year. Hope this clears up any confusion.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by renegademike928
so there is a lot of good info given here and i am thankful of it. one other question i have, can i put a 01 or 02 motor in (so i dont have to use that crappy ugly EGR) but run the early vette fuel rail with a return line in it? i dont want to have to run the fuel pump, fuel pressure sensor, and all that crap if i dont have to. the OEM tank in these cars is FRIGGIN plastic, modifying that to work would suck! any of you guys that have smogged your car thru the referees in california have any contact names/numbers of your ref that you could pass down the line, i would really like to pick his brain before i get *** deep in this project. i hate to because all it does is give me a headahce and **** me off. thank you again...
The only number on my paperwork is 1-800-622-7733. This number is to schedual an apointment. I have tried calling that number to get some help, but they were of no help and directed me to there web site. I went to the refree station in southwestern college, chula vista. The technicians name is Kluch but i have no way of getting a hold of him. I belevie you can make an apointment show up and ask away. There was another RX7 guy that did exacltly that to find out about whether or not the Fuel Evap controls would be tested. They do test the evaporative controls.

The first question they asked me was for a vin number of the LS1 vehicle. I didnt have one for him. Then he asked if it was a complete pull out. I assured him that the entire LS1 was out of the same car. Im assuming if he knows you mixed and matched parts from diffrent years he going to fail you. Adjustable fuel presure regulators are illegal in california, and they do look under the vehicle with a mirror to check what you got. So that leaves you with one option. The factory Ls1 pump has the fuel vapor presure sensor mounted to the top of it. The charcoal canister has the vent valve atached to it. While your driving your ecu randomly checks if there are leaks in evap system. If the sensors are missing or not conected properly the check engine light will come on and the BAR will fail you. You dont need to retrofit the entire camero tank but you are going to need the charcoal canister and the fuel vapor presure sensor. I made a plate to retrofit the LS1 pump to the stock Rx7 tank. The stock ls1's fuel pump has a spring loaded basket making its hieght adjustable. Therfore easily adapting to different size fuel tanks. You could probably avoid using the Ls1 fuel pump by hiding a fuel presure regulator out of sight and adapting the fuel vapor pressure sensor to your tank. They will check the fuel evaporative controls so those sensors need to be hooked up, and your evaporative system must be free of leaks.

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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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You can run either fuel rail, I might have a spare in my "junk pile" if you need it.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:30 AM
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Mike,

I really hate to break it to you, but I dont think that a 944 LS1 conversion could ever be legal, from what I understand. Its a transaxel, correct? From what I understood the ref was saying, you have to use the same tranny that was in the donor car, meaning you have to use a 4l60e or a t56.

Im not 100% sure on that though.

Born Again and I have been working back and forth, and luckily the RX7 tank top is larger than the LS1 intank pump, so we were able to fab an adaptor. Maybe with the 944, you can fab a fuel cellish system with the LS1 pump?
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