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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Not counting the roller or the engine/trans about how much do you guys think this swap would cost? I'll be doing all the work myself. i know the k member will be about 350 plus the plates to mount the LS1. i'm going to need a cooling system and a fuel system. Anyone know about how much this will cost? Trying to figure out if i'll be able to swing this next summer.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
Not counting the roller or the engine/trans about how much do you guys think this swap would cost? I'll be doing all the work myself. i know the k member will be about 350 plus the plates to mount the LS1. i'm going to need a cooling system and a fuel system. Anyone know about how much this will cost? Trying to figure out if i'll be able to swing this next summer.
well, I certainly have been staring at the job myself alot recently. Unfortunately, the cost of the LS1 and tranny is more than the V2 T-trim kit used. So I'll have more power with the current 302 I have. What I'll be missing is the 200 or so lb drop with an AL block and heads.

Anyways, I figure $200 for the custom driveshaft, 200 for another vehicle on my HPTuner (the load placed by a 2700 lb car is different enough I'd want to tune it differently) $750 for headers and a link to the current dual exhaust. (I'd need to work out wether Kooks for a 351 in a Fox could just be adapted...but thats the Rumor.) $250 for a better radiator (I already have an electric fan setup) $350 for the AJE K-member (I already have tubular A-arms, etc... just the wrong tubular K) $250 for a specific oil pan/pickup... (and there is some question which pan that is.) $20 for all the stuff you'd need to get the air intake doing the right thing. $50 for all the wiring stuff necessary. I have no idea how much it would cost to set up the 4L60 shifter.

So...
$3000 for an engine/tranny combo in decent shape with accessories and computer
$200 driveshaft
$200 HPTuner
$750 Headers
$250 Radiator
$350 K member
$250 Oil pan/pickup
$20 Air intake pipe
$50 wiring stuff
$??? Shifter adaptation
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$5070+

$300 Used cam (the engine is out, you really not going to swap cams?)
$300 Spring kit
$350 LS6 intake (the last "must have", unless its a 2001+ engine)
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~$6000 plus shifter and plus Fox with nice suspension/exhaust

Currently too 'spensive, even if it would be a streetable 10 second car with a bulletproof rear, 4 link, and 2700 lbs.

I can buy a T-trim kit and get that power with what I have... and still have pretty high resale on my 93 SSP Coupe.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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I figured it'd be about $6k. I'm pretty sure i can shave some money by buying used parts here and there (radiator, headers). I've heard the same thing about the fox 351 headers, just heads that you had to weld on LS1 header flanges. Will the stock LS1 oil pan not work with the AJE k member for a fox/SBC setup?

Guess it'll just have to go together piece by piece.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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I used the stock F-body radiator and fans with no problem. Same on the '66 Chevy II we're doing now. You have to make it fit of course, but it does.

I used Mac 351 W Fox headers and made them fit - took some work. QA1 '96 up K-member, so the stock F-body oil pan doesn't have to be notched. Works fine on Fox cars. $150 custom DS. It's not too bad if you play it right and don't go crazy on suspension and body/paint like I did.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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QA1 '96 up K-member, so the stock F-body oil pan doesn't have to be notched. Works fine on Fox cars.
So wait.... the engine mounts are int eh right place? I assume you at least have to drill some different holes in the plates?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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So wait.... the engine mounts are int eh right place? I assume you at least have to drill some different holes in the plates?
I second this...i want to know what i'll be getting myself into if i do this. And how bad was the wiring?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Also, can the stock Fox fuel system be used and just the necessary parts upgaded, or will i have to go fuel cell and all that jazz? Lane, did you ever decide if you were gonna sell the fabbed parts necessart for this swap? PM me if you want.

thanks,
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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Bump for my wiring question...
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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I made solid motor mounts. A buddy of mine used another brand '96 up K and the plates he made for stock Fox mounts worked fine. They didn't fit so well with in my car - but my car had been wrecked in the front at one time. Maybe that had something to do with it. One frame-rail pointed up... lol. They sat the motor a little too high and at too much of an angle back.

Wiring isn't bad at all. I didn't do the initial job, but finished out the fuel pump and fan relays. I believe there's only 4 wires to hook up before you can crank it through the stock ignition.

Not sure about the stock Fox fuel system. I had an older car that was carb'ed, so that wouldn't have worked. I found a great deal on a full Aeromotive system, with a sumped tank, lines, rails, regulator, everything - and it worked great. There's cheaper ways to do it though - like with a good pump, Aeromotive regulator - using stock rails, etc. A search in this forum will show you everything you need.

Good luck.

Oh, and I doubt seriously we'll ever build a kit for this swap. Sorry.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lane
I made solid motor mounts. A buddy of mine used another brand '96 up K and the plates he made for stock Fox mounts worked fine. They didn't fit so well with in my car - but my car had been wrecked in the front at one time. Maybe that had something to do with it. One frame-rail pointed up... lol. They sat the motor a little too high and at too much of an angle back.

Wiring isn't bad at all. I didn't do the initial job, but finished out the fuel pump and fan relays. I believe there's only 4 wires to hook up before you can crank it through the stock ignition.

Not sure about the stock Fox fuel system. I had an older car that was carb'ed, so that wouldn't have worked. I found a great deal on a full Aeromotive system, with a sumped tank, lines, rails, regulator, everything - and it worked great. There's cheaper ways to do it though - like with a good pump, Aeromotive regulator - using stock rails, etc. A search in this forum will show you everything you need.

Good luck.

Oh, and I doubt seriously we'll ever build a kit for this swap. Sorry.
Thanks for the advice Lane.

Guess i'll be fabbing a few things myself.....but that's half the fun.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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The harness is a lot of work but if you get a stock f body harness you can cut out the stuff you dont need and get a PCM programmed to mach. maby 250.00 for the harness and 2-300 for the PCM.
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Originally Posted by 72ChevelleConv.LS1
The harness is a lot of work but if you get a stock f body harness you can cut out the stuff you dont need and get a PCM programmed to mach. maby 250.00 for the harness and 2-300 for the PCM.
That's what i am thinking i will do. i probably wouldn't worry about a spare PCM (will buy a complete engine/tranny/ECU/harness) since the car will have to be tuned right away so i can drive it with the cam.....

This is gonna be fun.
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