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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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I have a 1994 Honda Civic HX hatchback and I want to put a LS1 in it but I can't seem to think of a reasonable way to do so. I was wondering if a 4L60E with a transfer case could be used and just turn it around and have just the front axles drive the rear wheels with the front wheels free-wheeling. Is this mechanically possible? Could the engine and transmission be turned around?
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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I hope this is just a mental exercise, and not something you would actually plan to put into action. I'm researching everything I'll need to do to put an LS1 into a Jag XJ6 (already rear drive, and it's already been done many times with a regular small block Chevrolet). This is going to be hard enough. You're going to be much better off at least trying to swap into something that's rear drive, unless you're a master fabricator.

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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............ no im just kidding. i couldnt resist! its the immaturity in me! sorry
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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i dont even think a v8 could fit in a civic....maybe you can take out the back seats and put in in mid/rear mounted because when i look at my accord i know there is no way in hell my ls1 would fit in there.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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needs RWD and lots of quality time with a sawzal, it will not fit other wise, not even close to enough room
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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might as well build your own car from scratch
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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I saw a Toob Chassis Civic with a smallblock ford at the local dragstrip a few times. It can be done. But as stated above. it will require some good fabrication skills as well as the tools n equipment. If you have that then you can pretty much build whatever you want(or can afford)

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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If you have to ask then it's beyond your capability...
BUT, if you really want to research it...start with the 4T80E transaxle from a Cadillac.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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If you have to ask then it's beyond your capability...
AAAAAMEN. That's the answer to 99.9% of the "can I put an LS1 in..." questions on this board.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Convert it to RWD
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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If you got the money and skills or just money you can do it.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

big block in a cavalier.

so yes, it can be done.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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I wouldn't really say this "fits":

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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My GEEYOD ! I'd never ride in that yellow thing , but I must admit it's intense ! I think the guy with the caddy transaxle has a great idea . Remember the Olds Toronado ? Front wheel drive with a CID in the neighborhood of 430 cubes . People used to put them in Porsches and VW's . But honestly , I 'd start with a slightly larger car anyway . How about a late model Chevy Corvair convertible. I've ridden in one with a 350 in the back seat , and man was it fast . Four wheel independent suspension too .
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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hack, hack, hack job. id personally do a vette transaxle setup to make it rwd. i wanna put an ls1 into an s2k. adding 6 inches of width to the entire car with a lot of cutting and welding. anything can be done with a lil bit of money, skill, and luck.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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dont bother with this swap.. LS1-->Civic?


trust me.
after driving my own Bseries swapped Civic hatch for 4 years I find life is much better behind the wheel of an LS1 powered 1987 Mazda RX7 lightweight.

and its cheaper than a modded Civic.

trust me.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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right, first of all ditch the front engine rear drive idea unless you know of some bodywork guy that loves you (ie do it cheap) coz it will cost a tone to get the front end to look anything like right. so i would go for a mid rear drive set up. loads of people are using LSX engines bolted to Porcker G50 boxes for kit cars. it would still requier MAJOUR rear end work (a hell of a lot os steel fab work) and you may as well go for a whole rear space frame that just mounts to the front!

all in all it could be done, be as others have said, maybe try something already done/esasier. or you could just look into a kit car.

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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All you need is a truckload of angle iron and an old Lincoln stick welder.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Well as far as the fabrication is concerned, I know of people who would be able and willing to take it on. But I was wondering mainly about the drivetrain layout. I was also thinking about a tiny sports car I saw, I dont know that it was, it had the engine in the bassenger seat area with a belt drive to a transmission where it would normally be but that seems like a little too much. What I was really thinking was along the lines of an Oldsmobile Toronado gearbox, ever seen one of those? In the Toronado the engine was in front with a torque converter behind it, a chain drive to the transmission which was below and next to it, and one of the axles passing under the engine.
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