Ls motor into 69 Camaro + 6spd
#41
i never said anything bad about tee-toes stuff,hell i've never bought any, but i'm not the one who started with the shitty little coment about "chrome crap" and thats not my car,but i did build the engine,and i'm sure the engine in the picture does make a ton of horsepower, but why say bad things about some guy wanting his stuff to look original too, and i bet that dry sump super machine does'nt see too much pump gas.also i am interested how tee-toe is going to make a bracket that moves the (3-4 groove) a/c out to line up with the
(6 groove) alt and power steering.That's right guys there is'nt any money behind this machine,hell i could'nt afford to build one for myself, i build the engines @ street & performance.And say all the bad things you want
TEE-TOE but i just got through building an engine for Kenny Berstien's personal corvette, so surely it can't be that bad.
(6 groove) alt and power steering.That's right guys there is'nt any money behind this machine,hell i could'nt afford to build one for myself, i build the engines @ street & performance.And say all the bad things you want
TEE-TOE but i just got through building an engine for Kenny Berstien's personal corvette, so surely it can't be that bad.
#42
Are you going to be running a vintage air /ac or facory? I can post a picture of bracket and idler kit that allows you to use a sanden A/C compressor and puts it up high where it's easy to make A/C lines work, plus i dont think those
(variable displacment) late model A/C compressors work well with old A/C systems.
(variable displacment) late model A/C compressors work well with old A/C systems.
#43
My apologies then to you Adam. I thought you were knocking our engine builder and cars with the Summit comment.
I also said a bit higher up in the post that the S&P is not crap, just not my style. I went a bit over the edge with the crap comment, and retracted it.
We are working with Jack at Vintage Air to use the Sanden compressor, and with ATI to do a new front balancer/pulley. We thought about putting it up high like S&P does, but wanted it down low, and out of the way.
Adam-
I'm sure you build stout LSX packages, never knocked your ability to do so. I am just here to represent the other side of the hobby-
The guys who road race, and abuse their cars. I don't want to spend hours keeping a show engine like the one you posted clean on a weekly basis, so I opt for a lot less Bling, and more functional, serviceable parts. (stuff breaks at the track, no matter how stout you make it.) The nice thing about building parts, is that once you address the function aspect of the design, it is easy to make it visually appealing without having to chrome it.
Tyler
I also said a bit higher up in the post that the S&P is not crap, just not my style. I went a bit over the edge with the crap comment, and retracted it.
We are working with Jack at Vintage Air to use the Sanden compressor, and with ATI to do a new front balancer/pulley. We thought about putting it up high like S&P does, but wanted it down low, and out of the way.
Adam-
I'm sure you build stout LSX packages, never knocked your ability to do so. I am just here to represent the other side of the hobby-
The guys who road race, and abuse their cars. I don't want to spend hours keeping a show engine like the one you posted clean on a weekly basis, so I opt for a lot less Bling, and more functional, serviceable parts. (stuff breaks at the track, no matter how stout you make it.) The nice thing about building parts, is that once you address the function aspect of the design, it is easy to make it visually appealing without having to chrome it.
Tyler
#44
If you want to put it down low we have a setup that allows you to do that as well, in fact the down low setup really makes it better because we can use a stronger spring loaded tensioner in place of the factory one,instead of having to do away with it and use a heim adjustment bar.
#45
A simple Ls1 T56 transplant is'nt too bad with the right homework and parts purchases.
I am starting with a rusty 1969
Then building a chasis based on this with double wishbone suspension and spindles from a AWD car.
I will basically be transplanting a full latemodel LS1 harness and dash cluster into the car.. It will get the AC, climate controls etc.. all from the late model LS1 car.
I am still looking at the trans and transfer case options..
I have a independant suspension 9" housing and a reverse rotation carrier..
It will get mounted way on the pass side with a short CV shaft feeding the pass wheel.. Then a intermediate shaft will go in the other side of the 9" zip thru a hole in a LS2 truck oil pan and the hanger bearing will bolt to the the frame rail on the other side. The driverside CV will slip on the intermediate shafts splines.. A couple of axle shaft companies say they can cut and spline a custom intermediate shaft for me.
I'm getting different areas figured out and good compenents when I can find them... I will probably mount my motor via front and mid engine plates..
Teetoe... I do get inspired by projects/shops like yours.. I dont copy but witnessing creative engineering and design seems to help me figure out my own unique solutions.
I am starting with a rusty 1969
Then building a chasis based on this with double wishbone suspension and spindles from a AWD car.
I will basically be transplanting a full latemodel LS1 harness and dash cluster into the car.. It will get the AC, climate controls etc.. all from the late model LS1 car.
I am still looking at the trans and transfer case options..
I have a independant suspension 9" housing and a reverse rotation carrier..
It will get mounted way on the pass side with a short CV shaft feeding the pass wheel.. Then a intermediate shaft will go in the other side of the 9" zip thru a hole in a LS2 truck oil pan and the hanger bearing will bolt to the the frame rail on the other side. The driverside CV will slip on the intermediate shafts splines.. A couple of axle shaft companies say they can cut and spline a custom intermediate shaft for me.
I'm getting different areas figured out and good compenents when I can find them... I will probably mount my motor via front and mid engine plates..
Teetoe... I do get inspired by projects/shops like yours.. I dont copy but witnessing creative engineering and design seems to help me figure out my own unique solutions.
#47
Perfect
I have the same Q's I have a Factory A/C system and I want to use the stock A/C compressor from the LS1 and the factory box, I have no problem notching the sub-frame and then a touch up, but will the headers fit with the suitcase there, and will both systems be compatable, I don't like the S&P relocator kit, Sorry, but other stuff I do like,Steve
#48
Adam-
The clients I have are looking for something less street rod, and more factory. We will be making a new cast bracket that moves it where it needs to be to clear the frame, and use one belt.
V8_DSM_V8again-
That sounds very ambitious of you. Might I make a recommendation for spindles?
Our new AFX spindles are forged aluminum, and use the front seal C5 bearing assembly. The cool thin here, is that it can also use the rear C5 driven bearing to do an AWD conversion.
Check them out:
http://www.t56kit.com/gallery/produc..._061805_PT.jpg
69blackwidow-
Our A/C mount will not require frame mods. You will be in the clear, but it will be a bit before we have the casting completed.
Steve68-
The headers we make won't for the the factory A/C box. You'd be on your own for that setup.
Tyler
The clients I have are looking for something less street rod, and more factory. We will be making a new cast bracket that moves it where it needs to be to clear the frame, and use one belt.
V8_DSM_V8again-
That sounds very ambitious of you. Might I make a recommendation for spindles?
Our new AFX spindles are forged aluminum, and use the front seal C5 bearing assembly. The cool thin here, is that it can also use the rear C5 driven bearing to do an AWD conversion.
Check them out:
http://www.t56kit.com/gallery/produc..._061805_PT.jpg
69blackwidow-
Our A/C mount will not require frame mods. You will be in the clear, but it will be a bit before we have the casting completed.
Steve68-
The headers we make won't for the the factory A/C box. You'd be on your own for that setup.
Tyler
#49
""""Steve68-
The headers we make won't for the the factory A/C box. You'd be on your own for that setup""""
check out my pics of the pace setters on the passenger side. i think they would fit just fine. if you have manual steering you may not have to modify them.
The headers we make won't for the the factory A/C box. You'd be on your own for that setup""""
check out my pics of the pace setters on the passenger side. i think they would fit just fine. if you have manual steering you may not have to modify them.
#51
Thanks Tyler, I was wondering about that, I don't thing that I want to switch to a V/A unit yet, but I'd still like to do a engine sheet to see if I'd benefit from the headers,
Sats- I saw the web page, I'm wondering if the Pacesetters will work, send me a P/N when you get a chance,
I may be convinced/swayed to get rid of the facatory air,
Sats- I saw the web page, I'm wondering if the Pacesetters will work, send me a P/N when you get a chance,
I may be convinced/swayed to get rid of the facatory air,
#52
Originally Posted by Steve68
Thanks Tyler, I was wondering about that, I don't thing that I want to switch to a V/A unit yet, but I'd still like to do a engine sheet to see if I'd benefit from the headers,
Sats- I saw the web page, I'm wondering if the Pacesetters will work, send me a P/N when you get a chance,
I may be convinced/swayed to get rid of the facatory air,
Sats- I saw the web page, I'm wondering if the Pacesetters will work, send me a P/N when you get a chance,
I may be convinced/swayed to get rid of the facatory air,
#54
Originally Posted by Teetoe_Jones
V8_DSM_V8again-
That sounds very ambitious of you. Might I make a recommendation for spindles?
Our new AFX spindles are forged aluminum, and use the front seal C5 bearing assembly. The cool thin here, is that it can also use the rear C5 driven bearing to do an AWD conversion.
Check them out:
http://www.t56kit.com/gallery/produc..._061805_PT.jpg
That sounds very ambitious of you. Might I make a recommendation for spindles?
Our new AFX spindles are forged aluminum, and use the front seal C5 bearing assembly. The cool thin here, is that it can also use the rear C5 driven bearing to do an AWD conversion.
Check them out:
http://www.t56kit.com/gallery/produc..._061805_PT.jpg
If we ever meet after I am done I will buy you a for making things ALOT easier.
I'll need to do something different with the shocks and coil overs to clear the CV shafts.... Maybe horizonal coil over actuated via a upper arm mounted bell crank?
Last edited by V8_DSM_V8again; 10-11-2005 at 11:36 PM.