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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Ok.. have my LS2 crate motor.. Should I:

1. Keep the TB and run "fly by wire"

2. Replace the TB with a cable ran unit (and whos?)

3. add and LS6 intake and fbody TB

4. FAST intage and cable TB


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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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It all depends on what wiring harness and ecu you use. I am swaping in a ls2 from a GTO into a 280z and I will be using the stock ecu and TBW TB.

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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My Nick Williams 90mm cable TB came in yesterday (for my LS2).

So far, It is pretty to look at at.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
Ok.. have my LS2 crate motor.. Should I:

1. Keep the TB and run "fly by wire"

2. Replace the TB with a cable ran unit (and whos?)

3. add and LS6 intake and fbody TB

4. FAST intage and cable TB


Thoughts?

Steve, I second with Mas280 in the harness situation. I'm swapping out my LS1 with an LS2 (+ a couple more cubes ) so it was a no brainer to do the FAST Intake. Because LPE is doing the motor, I will be using their TB. Rumors around the board are to stay away from the 'sticking' FAST TBs. Nick Williams appears to have nice piece which was my choice as an alternate to my current direction.

Btw...YOU HAVE A PM!!!
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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Since you already have the LS2 throttle body I would set up you car for drive-by-wire and just get a FAST intake if mods are in your plan. If you're going to leave it stock then just stick with the LS2 intake.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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How big a PITA is it to run the fly-by-wire TB? I was thinking a FAST intake along with a modified LS2 TB.. I sure wouldn't miss the big cable.. I guess I am concerned with how the FBW feels compared to the mechanical feel of a standard throttle cable.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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I am planning to use the "Fly by Wire" with my LQ9, but i need the parts that are inside the car like the TPS. Any idea what all i need or whre to get it?
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
How big a PITA is it to run the fly-by-wire TB? I was thinking a FAST intake along with a modified LS2 TB.. I sure wouldn't miss the big cable.. I guess I am concerned with how the FBW feels compared to the mechanical feel of a standard throttle cable.
I am changing over to a fly-by-wire on my swap, got all the needed Corvette pieces. It does make things simpler. As for the feel, I have it in my Silverado and never knew it for the first year I had it. Works great, that's what helped me decide to use it on the swap. It makes adding cruise control real easy, all you need is the CC turn signal stalk.

I'm not sure what is needed for the LS2, for my LS1 I needed the throttle body, the Throttle Actuator Control (TAC), the pedal, and the harness between the pedal and the TAC. Your harness has to have a plug for the TAC also.

Check with Speartech for details, he is the one who set everything up in my harness and ECU

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cool.. I've done some research and I think I will run the Fly-by-wire. Got a chance to check out a nice LS2/68 Camaro and I liked how it felt.

Now, will the LS2 TB bolt to a FAST intake? Also, who does a good job porting and polishing these out?

Thanks...
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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cool.. I've done some research and I think I will run the Fly-by-wire. Got a chance to check out a nice LS2/68 Camaro and I liked how it felt.

Now, will the LS2 TB bolt to a FAST intake? Also, who does a good job porting and polishing these out?

Thanks...
Yes it fits, MAS280 test fitted he's 90mm fast tb into the LS2 90mm intake.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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how can you covert to fly by wire??

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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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I am running a LS2 with a LS1 computer , I did a FAST intake and nick williams TB . seemed to be much easlier , aslso had a custom harness done for it and i am using LS1 style injectors not the small LS2 ones . Also FAST only makes one intake for these motors . SO if you put on a fast on the LS2 the map wiring wont hook up . The FAST map sensor is in the rear , LS2's are in the front . Just FYI . I wont have mine on long , just long enough to do some road test and dyno runs , then i am installing my HARROP intake , and then back to the dyno for some speed density changes !!!
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The fly-by-wire is great, the FAST TB is not. I have two that are not going to be used on any of my motors.

The fly-by-wire has the TPS and IAC integrated in it, you have to buy a TPS and IAC with the FAST. If you have to go cable controlled, UMI is a much better unit and costs less too, AS&M and others have 'em.

Also I'm pretty sure you have to run a 2004 (Silverado) or later PCM (Vette, GTO or SSR) to be fly-by-wire capable regardless of who does your wiring harness.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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so what all is involved for fly by wire? Can i just get a 99 C5 ECM to replace my 99 Fbody one?
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by datsbad
I am running a LS2 with a LS1 computer , I did a FAST intake and nick williams TB . seemed to be much easlier , aslso had a custom harness done for it and i am using LS1 style injectors not the small LS2 ones . Also FAST only makes one intake for these motors . SO if you put on a fast on the LS2 the map wiring wont hook up . The FAST map sensor is in the rear , LS2's are in the front . Just FYI . I wont have mine on long , just long enough to do some road test and dyno runs , then i am installing my HARROP intake , and then back to the dyno for some speed density changes !!!
I can't run an LS1 computer since my LS2 has a 58x reluctor wheel..
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The fly-by-wire is great, the FAST TB is not. I have two that are not going to be used on any of my motors.

The fly-by-wire has the TPS and IAC integrated in it, you have to buy a TPS and IAC with the FAST. If you have to go cable controlled, UMI is a much better unit and costs less too, AS&M and others have 'em.

Also I'm pretty sure you have to run a 2004 (Silverado) or later PCM (Vette, GTO or SSR) to be fly-by-wire capable regardless of who does your wiring harness.
I was pretty sure that Speed and Performance makes a stand alone unit for using Fly by wire regardless of the main computer used..
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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you can use a LS1 computer even with your reluctor wheel . mine has the same !
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stevels1, your car is beautiful. I never saw it before now. Hope mine turns out half as good.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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What is the service number on the ecm? It is probably 9354896. Iam pretty sure you can flash this ecm for fly by wire. Ecms with service number 12200411 can be reflashed to accomodate fly by wire. This ecm was used in 01-02 F body, 01-03 Vette and 01-02 truck. So, if you flash this ecm with an '03 vette vin and get the pedal, tac module(from an '03 vette) and do some rewiring of your harness you can run the fly by wire. There are a variety of other computers out there to run the fly by wire but this is one of the most common and cheap to buy.
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