swapping LS1 into 69maro
swapping LS1 into 69maro I was wondering what I would have to do to to swap a LS1, into a 69 camaro.
Can I use the same motor mounts, K-member, control arms, d/s and rearend???? as a 98-02 ????
Can I use the same motor mounts, K-member, control arms, d/s and rearend???? as a 98-02 ????
Originally Posted by slow67
you would need motor mount adapters and possibly a custom or aftermarket tranny mount. Probably will need to get your d/s shortened or lengthend depending on transmission used.
Reason I am asking, is cause I am able to get these parts from my buddies car for hella cheap. and the fact that I am putting in a LS1 motor. I figured try and use some parts that would go with it.
I think if your looking for a direct bolt on.. the answer is No!.. not with out much modification.
K-Member and A-Arm would be different. Could work with modification I guess.
12 bolt, you got Leaf springs on a 69 and coils on a GenIII.. it can be done but cut and weld is needed of the mounts.
just search on some of the theads, as there are a lot of 67-69 Camaro swap here. Much good info.
Good Luck
K-Member and A-Arm would be different. Could work with modification I guess.
12 bolt, you got Leaf springs on a 69 and coils on a GenIII.. it can be done but cut and weld is needed of the mounts.
just search on some of the theads, as there are a lot of 67-69 Camaro swap here. Much good info.
Good Luck
Launching!
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
From: shasta lake, north cali
if you do that you will basically have to graft on the firewall of the new car to the old car. there is a guy on here 76ls1bird. if you do a search for his name his car will come up. it is a stinking awesome conversion. here is his post that has some pics for you but you could pm him for some info or just do a search. his is on a 76 firebird using a 1999 ls1 front end and suspension. https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ight=76ls1bird there is a link for you for one of his posts.
Launching!
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
From: shasta lake, north cali
if you simply want to put the swap in and not do all the suspension there are some stickies at the top that are very detailed including wiring and all for a 67 that is basically the same thing. 67rscamarovette is doing a swap and he wrote the stickies so check them out. it is not as simple as bolting on if you want to use the front suspension out of the ls1 car. they have no frame rails per se so it is a lot more fab work than installing an ls1 with your stock suspension and then upgrading from there.
Trending Topics
If your going to do a swap with that many mod's, you might want to talk to ATS, one of the sponsors, http://www.t56kit.com/ they do a lot of conversion for Road Racing F-Body Muscle cars and others.
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes
Verdad Gallardo
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power
Verdad Gallardo
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die
Verdad Gallardo
The answer to your question is no, none of those parts are useful in a first gen. If you're getting an awesome deal on them, then buy 'em and then turn around and sell 'em on EBay. Like other people have said, go ready the stickies for info on how to do a first gen LS1 swap.
"possible" is a relative term around here... anything is possible. It's "possible" to put a whole K3500 4x4 dually truck rolling chassis under a brand new Mini body. Is it reasonable? No. Does it make sense? No. Is it possible? Yes.
"possible" is a relative term around here... anything is possible. It's "possible" to put a whole K3500 4x4 dually truck rolling chassis under a brand new Mini body. Is it reasonable? No. Does it make sense? No. Is it possible? Yes.
Originally Posted by Rodder
The answer to your question is no, none of those parts are useful in a first gen. If you're getting an awesome deal on them, then buy 'em and then turn around and sell 'em on EBay. Like other people have said, go ready the stickies for info on how to do a first gen LS1 swap.
"possible" is a relative term around here... anything is possible. It's "possible" to put a whole K3500 4x4 dually truck rolling chassis under a brand new Mini body. Is it reasonable? No. Does it make sense? No. Is it possible? Yes.
"possible" is a relative term around here... anything is possible. It's "possible" to put a whole K3500 4x4 dually truck rolling chassis under a brand new Mini body. Is it reasonable? No. Does it make sense? No. Is it possible? Yes.
and sell the other things. and try to get money for them and put it into the right suspn.
Sell what you don't need or will use in the Engine/Trans swap, and use the $$$ for the swap or you can use it to buy aftermarket parts that were designed for you 69 Camaro.
Originally Posted by rocketrider93
you are the one that works at the collision senter get your boys on it. the beer was to set your imagination free not mine. i don't drink and i got my 70 bird to work on.
But, I am gonna definently use the motor and tranny. and try and fab something up to get the moser 12bolt to fit leafsprings.
Originally Posted by rocketrider93
anything is possible with the right tools and a lot of beer
---
Measure it with calipers, mark it with chalk, cut it with a torch, beat it to fit, and paint it to match.
--'92-93 UTSAE / Longhorn Racing Team
Launching!
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
From: shasta lake, north cali
as far as the twelve bolt goes, if you are good with a welder, couldn't you just cut all of the mounts off of the rearend and weld on some leaf spring perches for the dimmensions you need?
You could, but when you could do the same with a cheap ($200) 8.8 and it woudl be much cheaper.
a 12 bolt with torque arm has far more value to a 4th gen owner, than somebody trying to put a good rearend in a 1st gen.
Ryan
a 12 bolt with torque arm has far more value to a 4th gen owner, than somebody trying to put a good rearend in a 1st gen.
Ryan
Originally Posted by slow
You could, but when you could do the same with a cheap ($200) 8.8 and it woudl be much cheaper.
a 12 bolt with torque arm has far more value to a 4th gen owner, than somebody trying to put a good rearend in a 1st gen.
Ryan
a 12 bolt with torque arm has far more value to a 4th gen owner, than somebody trying to put a good rearend in a 1st gen.
Ryan
cause like the guy said above. wouldn't u be able to weld on leaf pearches?
Another 2 cents..
You should be able to get new Leaf Sprint Pearches and hardware, weld (or get someone to weld) them on. Could be a waste of time and $$$. As others have stated.. that 12bolt for the 4th gen could bring a good price. You don't need the Torque arm setup for your 69 unless your going to convert the rear end to a coil setup, If so... why not just do a 4 link?
As it might be a good idea to sell the one you got to a 4th gen owner and buy a 12 bolt for a 1st gen Camaro. (anyware from a few hundred $ used to about $1800+ for a new Moser)
Mike, I am in the Bay Area too.. Check Craigslist, I picked up a Chevelle 12 with HD hardware for $600.. and have see 1st Gen Camaro and (68-72) Nova 12bolt listed from time to time in there too.
You should be able to get new Leaf Sprint Pearches and hardware, weld (or get someone to weld) them on. Could be a waste of time and $$$. As others have stated.. that 12bolt for the 4th gen could bring a good price. You don't need the Torque arm setup for your 69 unless your going to convert the rear end to a coil setup, If so... why not just do a 4 link?
As it might be a good idea to sell the one you got to a 4th gen owner and buy a 12 bolt for a 1st gen Camaro. (anyware from a few hundred $ used to about $1800+ for a new Moser)
Mike, I am in the Bay Area too.. Check Craigslist, I picked up a Chevelle 12 with HD hardware for $600.. and have see 1st Gen Camaro and (68-72) Nova 12bolt listed from time to time in there too.