s10 ls1ers prt. 2
09-11-2006, 06:16 AM
#61
Originally Posted by Ls2Sonoma
you have to make some modification to the fuel lines at the least. the pumps in the newer trucks are capable of supplying enough fuel for a stock LS1 so theres you dont need to change it.
my apologies for being vague. what would you prefer i do? try to explain it better or a complete list of parts+pictures that i used? my setup was very simple, the only special tool i needed was boiling water and a clamp that holds nylon fuel line.
my apologies for being vague. what would you prefer i do? try to explain it better or a complete list of parts+pictures that i used? my setup was very simple, the only special tool i needed was boiling water and a clamp that holds nylon fuel line.
btw did i forget to mention how much help u guys really are? its alot of help to me... right now i am living, eating, and breathing this swap so im trying to suck up information like a vacuum
basically trying to solve problems before i get there... what do you mean by "the only special tool i needed was boiling water and a clamp that holds nylon fuel line." --explain?
09-11-2006, 08:56 PM
#62
Originally Posted by gmax111
what do you mean by "the only special tool i needed was boiling water and a clamp that holds nylon fuel line." --explain?
i used nylon lines and quick disconnect fittings. you can get everything from papco. the way to assemble the lines is to boil them and press the fittings in. the tool is used to hold the line without crushing it.
09-15-2006, 01:31 PM
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Hell, swap it in my 2.2l had 46,000. The truck finally has the get up that these little trucks need. No more snailing around for me, can't imagine I added stuff to my 2.2l thinking it really made it faster.
09-15-2006, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jinusow
Hell, swap it in my 2.2l had 46,000. The truck finally has the get up that these little trucks need. No more snailing around for me, can't imagine I added stuff to my 2.2l thinking it really made it faster.
i did the same thing to my 4.3. even before i started my v8 swap i had planned on a 300+hp 4.3...go ahead, flame me now.
09-15-2006, 07:57 PM
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Don't feel bad most of us thought that until we realized that the aftermarket is almost non existent with meaningfull upgrades even if you did the stuff that works say some head work, cam, headers, ported TB and even a SC you still would be limited by the shitty injection set up on the 4.3L, popets. WTF? It'll keep you to under 300hp. I just momentarily had a brief moment of delusion and thought I might be able to get the base manifold for a 3800 M90 and strap a M112H to it, no chance...... So I'll put in a LS2 and throw a M122H on that biatch.
09-15-2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by firefighter
So I'll put in a LS2 and throw a M122H on that biatch.
And why start with the LS2? Why not go for an L92? The L92 heads look like they're the best thing since sliced bread....Silly flow for cheap....
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09-15-2006, 08:39 PM
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Well right now there isn't a L92 crate motor. I'll actually make my move towards the swap early next year so we'll see what is out there then. Also I really don't need a 2.6L SC I'm only lookin to get 400-500 rwhp. also I like the packaging of the Maggies better.
09-18-2006, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by firefighter
Well right now there isn't a L92 crate motor. I'll actually make my move towards the swap early next year so we'll see what is out there then. Also I really don't need a 2.6L SC I'm only lookin to get 400-500 rwhp. also I like the packaging of the Maggies better.
I'm not sold on KB's offerings either, mostly because I've heard their customer support sucks and I believe it. I emailed them 2 weeks ago requesting info and never heard anthing back.
Are you sure you'll be happy with 400 to 500? I can't say for you, but for me too much power is never nearly enough. I'd be ok with 400 to 500 to start (I'm settling for 325 fwhp to start), but I'd want more later (and do want more, but got to get it driving first). The Maggie doesn't have any headroom, its pretty much maxed out running low boost on a stock 6.0. On a L92 it would be just that much overworked (or running lower boost due to less restiction). Also, you've got to look at boost quality, pressure isn't everything, temperature is important. Running the Eaton M112 (used on the Maggie) that hard (its only 1.5L) makes a fair bit of heat.
Not a sermon, just a few thoughts from the peanut gallery....
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09-19-2006, 09:25 AM
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Also the M112 is 1.8L. The numbers on the Eatons indicates c.i. and a litre is approx 61c.i. so 112/61 is roughly 1.8L and 122/61 is roughly 2.0L. I could be wrong but thats how I figure it out. The new M122H is a high helix design wich is a modified rotor and and inlet more efficient and cooler running.
09-19-2006, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by firefighter
Also the M112 is 1.8L. The numbers on the Eatons indicates c.i. and a litre is approx 61c.i. so 112/61 is roughly 1.8L and 122/61 is roughly 2.0L. I could be wrong but thats how I figure it out. The new M122H is a high helix design wich is a modified rotor and and inlet more efficient and cooler running.
The M112 is 1.84L. I didn't see anything on Eaton's website about an M122 model, but either Magna Charger or Magnuson's website (one of them) had a dyno test result for an LS2. But the M122 was marked Beta, which I'd guess means its a preproduction unit.
Regardless, the M112 is at its limit to supply a hot 6.0 (or bigger) with anything over about 6 or 8psi. The Lightning guys already know that. The M122's additional displacement certainly will help, but I'd love to see some performance graphs for it to know for myself.
The 2.4L & bigger Kenne Bells look to have several advantages, including better design (more of a screw compressor than roots blower) and lower speed for given boost (which should translate into less heat.). But if their customer support is lacking (which I've heard) then how useful is a better product with lousy support?
Personally, I don't have the time or $$$ to be working on it right at the moment (but it's nice to dream). I need to get my truck running with the NA motor first and foremost.
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09-19-2006, 07:41 PM
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hey, my dad bought a set of wheels for his firehawk and they didnt fit, 4.5 skinnies in the front and 10 inch in the back, weld pro-star wheels, what backspacing will fit the rear? i think he had to get like 7.5 backspacing
09-21-2006, 08:57 PM
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well i ended up not being able to use those, but by a stroke of luck, my cousin came upon a house, purchased it, and it had many old car parts in the garage that came with it, including a set of 15 X 10 centerline solid wheels with rivits made out of magnesium, 4" back spacing, and gave them to me
